Irvine House vs Condo Numbers: August 2012

According to Altos Research, Irvine’s single-family housing market is similar to what it was the previous month. Altos gives Irvine’s single-family homes a Market Action Index of 21.61, which Altos defines as a buyer’s market. (Above 30 is defined as a seller’s market; below is defined as a buyer’s market.) Altos also states that the average single-family home has been on the market for about 121 days as of August 10, 2012.

Altos Market Action Index for Single-family Homes in Irvine

Altos Research

According to Redfin, 226 houses were on the Irvine market in June, and 181 condos were on the market. Following is more data from Redfin on Irvine’s July 2012 housing market:

Type List Price/# Homes Listed Sold Price/# Homes Sold List Per SF Sold Per SF % Chg Y-O-Y Sold Price/SF
Houses
12-Jul $949K/226 $760K/95 $382 $368 7.90%
12-Jun $890K/251 $735K/103 $384 $356 5%
Condos
12-Jul $509K/181 $425K/115 $342 $306 -1.60%
12-Jun $498K/202 $430K/152 $336 $313 -1.30%
All
12-Jul $744K/408 $545K/211 $363 $322 0.30%
12-Jun $720K/456 $515K/257 $363 $327 0.9%*

*The May price per square foot was down 4.6%.

The following charts show Irvine’s inventory, median price per square foot of houses, and median price per square foot of condos, respectively.

Redfin

There are fewer houses and condos on the market this month than last month, as well as fewer sales. In addition, houses seem to be faring better than condos in Irvine’s housing market.

If you would like to see some housing numbers for each of Irvine’s neighborhoods, see my previous post “Irvine Housing by the Numbers – August 2012 Update.”

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Open House Review: 17 Heron

Custom Woodbridge Entertainer’s Coup

17 Heron Irvine, CA 92604 $975,000

As I drove through Woodbridge to see this single family home, I was anticipating questions. Billed as an entertainer’s dream, this home brings up the two questions that people who entertain always ask: How many are there for dinner, and what’s the budget? I was interested to see how the cost versus space budget would play out at 17 Heron.

I had seen the floor plan and was looking forward to seeing the ‘great room.’ But seeing is believing, and that turned out to be pure fun. Stepping into a sunlit foyer and heading into a very together ‘great room,’ I could picture holidays flourishing here with friends and family, followed by one party after another.

Off to the right of the foyer there is a nicely finished living room with fireplace that will easily handle extra party traffic.

Soaring cathedral vaulted ceilings with lots of natural light accent the individual islands of color as the family area with fireplace, dining area, large counter bar, and kitchen all blend together. This is what open space always intends to be.

After seeing the space, a review of the figures shows this home as new to the market, with 2,450 square feet, at a $/Sq. Ft. cost of $398, with HOA dues of $82 a month, and a lot size of 5,000 square feet. The finished product has 4 bedrooms, 3 baths and 3 garages.

Remodeled in 2001, there are updates everywhere. The kitchen is a match for the great room with black granite counters, a large counter bar, under counter lighting, custom ceiling soffit with pendant lighting, top of the line appliances, ash cabinets and a tumbled marble backsplash, the party continues outside in the yard and on the patio with a gas barbecue island and a mini putting green.

There is one bedroom and a full bath downstairs. Upstairs the master bedroom and bath have been remodeled with custom jacuzzi tub, skylights, a huge walk in closet, and cathedral ceilings. There are two more bedrooms and a full bath upstairs.

The home has dual paned windows throughout, a larger capacity HVAC system, surround sound and woven blinds.

Specifics for this two level contemporary:

Bedrooms: 4

Baths: 3

Sq. Ft.: 2450 sq.ft.

$/Sq.Ft.: $398

HOA Dues: $82/month

Lot size: 5,000 sq. ft.

Property: Residential

Type: Single Family

Views: Tree Tops

Community: Woodbridge

Built: 1977

Schools: Irvine School System

Laundry in the garage

Association pool and spa

Listed: 19 days

Considerations and Comparisons: New to the market in a prime Woodbridge location near the lake, gives this home impetus. Sold in 2001 for $628,000 and also remodeled in 2001 with a strong floor plan, the question will be how the home fits the current market. Homes with similar prices and square footage have recently sold in Woodbridge and more are currently listed.

Who will be having parties at 8 Heron? Seasoned entertainers who love to plan big parties, and whip up instant get-togethers will be attracted to this home. There’s a lot of space and it all works. Families attracted to the school system and the parks and lake will consider this home. Having one bedroom downstairs will appeal to professionals who want a home office, or families with older members. The ready-to-move-in, polished space will appeal to professionals who want to unpack and maintain their schedule.

Recent Sales Nearby: 1 Vetrina sold for $998,000 in May; 27 Blue Jay sold for $912,000 in July; and 18 Mandarin sold for $925,000 in June. New listings nearby: 21 Bayside is currently listed at $958,000 and 26 Emerald is listed at $1,045,000.

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Timberwoods of Northwood

Like the Sapphire condominiums of West Irvine, Timberwood condominiums of Northwood have seen a lot of action too. When they were built in 2000, they sold in the $225,000-$250,000 range. Later as the Kool-Aid was passed around in 2006, they doubled in their value, selling in the range of $500,000-$530,000. Then came the drop, and the race to the bottom, they are in the $350,000 range now, and we don’t know if most of the inventory has dried up, or there will be more dragging the prices further. Today, we will compare two Timberwood properties currently for sale, and go over the 2012 sale data.

1300 Timberwood, Irvine CA 92620

1900 Timberwood, Irvine CA 92620

1900 Timberwood

1300 Timberwood

Listing Price

$399,988

$339,000

Beds/ Bath

2 Beds/ 2 bath

2 beds/ 1 bath

SF Area

1300

1267

Price/ SF

$308

$268

Property Type

Condominium

Condominium

Levels

3+ Levels, Mediterranean

3+ Levels

Year Built

2000

2000

HOA Dues

$290

$282

Property Tax (Annual at 1.0585%)

$4236

$3592

Mello Roos (Annual)

$1386

$1386

Property Tax + Mello Roos (Monthly)

$468

$415

Mortgage (Monthly)

30 YR Fixed, 3.875%

$1505

$1275

Fixed Monthly Expenses

$2263

$1972

Fixed Monthly Expenses/ SF

$1.74

$1.55

Here is a look at the sales history for Timberwood homes:

2011:

1008 Timberwood $316.67/SF

1200 Timberwood $269.23/SF

2212 Timberwood $320.51/SF

2100 Timberwood $255.91/SF

2110 Timberwood $307.09/SF

610 Timberwood $289.29/SF

308 Timberwood $289.29/SF

2012:

1410 Timberwood $286.74/SF

518 Timberwood $298.34/SF

820 Timberwood $261.74/SF

And the properties on the market now are listed for $268/SF and $308/SF.

What do you think? The prices will go down further for these condominiums, or the worst was over in 2012 and lack of inventory will stabilize the sales?

The area has excellent schools in Irvine School District. The condos are not new, but they are all maintained as new. Three levels might be a bit of an issue for families with young children, or seniors, but almost every Irvine village has a set of three level condominiums.

Would you buy now?

Would you wait for prices to go down a bit more?

One of the listings mentions that the rents are in the $2200-$2400 range in this area. Would you buy an investment property here?

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Closed Sales from 8/9/2012 to 8/15/2012

Date Sold Address Zip Tract Sold Price Beds Sq Ft
Airport Area
8/10/12 3217 Watermarke Pl 92612 Watermarke $225,000 1 635
8/13/12 5106 Scholarship 92612 The Plaza (5000 & 8000) $1,625,000 3 2685
8/13/12 3352 Watermarke Pl 92612 Watermarke $258,000 1 842
8/15/12 21 Gramercy 92612 Belvedere $459,000 2 1285
El Camino Real
8/10/12 4 Phoenix 90 92604 Heritage Park $391,000 3 1125
8/13/12 39 Red Rock 92604 Deerfield Park $582,000 3 1847
8/15/12 5181 Doanoke Ave 92604 El Camino Glen $480,000 3 1535
Northpark
8/14/12 20 Julian 1 92602 Tiburon $557,000 3 1650
8/14/12 28 Thorn Hill 92602 Bel Aire $935,000 5 3511
Northwood
8/9/12 74 Trailing Vine 92602 Tamarisk $400,000 3 1498
8/9/12 27 Whispering Pne 92620 Tremaine $655,000 4 2004
8/9/12 38 Fabriano 92620 Vista Filare $525,000 2 1385
8/10/12 120 Timberwood 92620 Collage $357,000 2 1250
8/10/12 8 Prescott 92620 Sheffield Manor $409,000 2 1424
8/10/12 229 Huntington 92620 Horizon $295,000 2 995
8/12/12 5 Deerhollow 92620 Fairmont $1,075,000 5 2900
8/15/12 13552 Jemel Way 92620 Other $551,199 3 2268
8/15/12 2 Stonewall 92620 Imperial Homes $864,500 5 2808
8/15/12 12 Viola 92620 Arbor Crest $1,725,000 6 4350
Oak Creek
8/15/12 26 Dahlia 92618 Cypress $700,000 4 2018
Orangetree
8/15/12 7108 Apricot Dr 92618 Custom $207,000 2 1101
Portola Springs
8/10/12 145 Silverado 92618 San Carlos Court $480,990 2 1736
8/10/12 152 Full Moon 92618 San Carlos Court $345,990 1 1220
8/13/12 54 Full Moon 92618 San Carlos COURT $465,000 3 1653
Quail Hill
8/9/12 315 Tall Oak 92603 Ivy Wreath $739,000 3 1736
8/12/12 77 Figtree 92603 Soltice $560,000 3 1509
8/15/12 20 Vermillion 92603 Sage $515,000 3 1300
Turtle Rock
8/10/12 14 Mountain View 92603 Broadmoor $1,130,000 5 2768
8/12/12 17 Sunrose 92603 Highlands Garden $910,000 3 2459
University Park
8/9/12 5126 Alder 92612 Terrace $375,000 2 1224
8/13/12 1 Lancewood Way 92612 Village 1 (V1) $405,000 3 1493
8/13/12 14 Klamath 92612 Park Crest $630,000 4 2684
8/14/12 17 FEATHERWOOD 92612 Terrace $455,000 2 1224
8/14/12 4822 Royce Rd 92612 Park I (In Village Park) $786,000 4 2314
Westpark
8/9/12 53 Del Cambrea 92606 Positano $557,500 3 1683
8/15/12 16 Santa Catalina Aisle 92606 Ravenna $690,000 4 1900
Woodbridge
8/9/12 60 Chardonnay 43 92614 Chateaux $420,000 2 1600
8/10/12 26 Waterway 29 92614 Lakeshore $595,000 2 1930
8/10/12 100 Eagle Pt 52 92604 Village Green $300,000 3 1088
8/13/12 24 Meadowgrass 92604 Creekside $745,000 4 1950
8/13/12 105 W. Yale Loop 92604 Estates $610,000 4 2161
8/14/12 110 Echo Run 92614 Park Vista $281,000 3 1117
8/15/12 19 Heron 92604 Place $686,500 3 1905
Woodbury
8/14/12 71 Hallmark 92620 La Casella $658,000 3 2100
8/14/12 54 Peony 92618 Monterey $438,500 2 1685

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Open House Review: 7 Aldea

Today I visited another home in the Windstream neighborhood of Northwood. This house is located in a gated community and is a short walk to the community swimming pool and tennis courts. While it is a corner lot, offering a larger than average front yard, it is right next to the gate where cars come in and out of the neighborhood.

The basics:

Asking Price: $799,900 – $849,900

Bedrooms: 3

Bathrooms: 2.5

Square Footage: 2452

Lot Size: 5,500

$/Sq Ft: $347

Property Type: Single Family Home

Year Built: 1979

Community: Northwood, Windstream

HOA dues are $174 per month and there are no Mello Roos.

My first question to the realtor was why there was a range rather than a set asking price. She said it was to encourage buyers with different ranges to view the house, but also said it was expected to sell in the higher end of the range. She also predicted three or four offers to come this week, as multiple buyers were seeing the house for the second time.

When you walk in, the living room is immediately on the left, with several windows, a vaulted ceiling and a burnt reddish/orange carpet that is found throughout the house. Immediately behind it, and separated by a railing, is the dining room, which also has vaulted ceilings. I didn’t care much for the carpet color, but the rooms are nice otherwise.

The family room features a small walk-in bar area and, like the living room, a brick fireplace. It has recessed lighting and speakers in the ceiling. Off the family room are a small laundry room (with a sink) and a half bath.

The kitchen has dark red tile countertops that look to be original from 1979, as well as original cabinets. The stovetop is in the peninsula and there is a double oven. Some appliances are stainless steel, but the fridge is black. The ceiling still has the old fluorescent panel-style lighting. There are new porcelain tile floors in the kitchen, matching those in the hallway, bathroom, and laundry room. The kitchen also has a large eat-in area and a sliding door out to the backyard.

The yard is all hardscaped with a nice patio cover over half of it, a small waterfall and a gas fire ring.

Upstairs, there are three bedrooms. The master is right at the top of the stairs. It has vaulted ceilings and a large retreat area. The bathroom also has high ceilings with many windows. There is a sunken tub and small stall shower, both with older red tile and gold fixtures that match the two sinks and vanity. There are two large mirrored closets.

Down the hall are the two secondary bedrooms and another full bathroom. The bath has two sinks and a shower/tub combo, again with older tile (though newer looking floor tiles). The bedrooms are large, with multiple windows and mirrored closets. Even the hallway has multiple windows to keep it bright.

7 Aldea is a great floorplan and Windstream is a wonderful neighborhood. While the house is in good condition and very well maintained, it lacks major upgrades in the kitchen and all bathrooms. I also really dislike the carpet that is found in almost the whole house. Being situated next to the entry gate and backing to Hicks Canyon make the location rather undesirable.

There are other comparable homes on the market with either lower prices or more upgrades (or both). 6 Urbino, just around the corner from this one, is a much bigger model with a lot more upgrades. It sold in July for $922,000. At $282 per square foot, that is a much better deal than the $347 per square foot that 7 Aldea is asking for (based on the $849,900 asking price). Since the realtor mentioned that she expected several offers on the home this week, I don’t think it’s worth trying to get in on this one.

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