Irvine and Laguna Beach are very close, and although the lifestyles are very different, the housing markets draw from the same buyer pool. Pricing in one community impacts the other.
Asking Price: $1,998,000
Address: 20 Wildland Irvine, CA 92603
Wild thing…you make my heart sing…
You make everything
Groovy
I said wild thing…
Wild thing, I think you move me
But I wanna know for sure
So come on, hold me tight
You move me
Wild Thing — The Troggs
Some of the high-end properties in Irvine and Orange County are really groovy. With the wild and unpredictable pricing in our markets, the attachment of people to their properties can become a love-hate relationship.
In a housing market crash like we are witnessing now, no neighborhood is immune. The most desirable neighborhoods crash last, and they come back the soonest, but they too must walk through the valley of the shadow of death (Psalm 23:4). Right now, they fear no evil.
Despite the fact that they fall last and come back first, it does not mean that these neighborhoods crash least. Due to The Immunity Syndrome, some of these neighborhoods will crash the hardest. The prices in these neighborhoods was not pushed up so high by cash buyers, and although cash buyers can float things for a time, the lack of financing creates a vacuum that sucks the air out of the housing bubble.
For now, buyers with substantial cash positions dominate the market in Irvine. Large financing amounts will not be common any time soon as the loan programs of the bubble are dead. Will cash buyers sustain the market forever? No.
Asking Price: $1,998,000
Income Requirement: $499,500
Downpayment Needed: $399,600
Purchase Price: $1,713,500
Purchase Date: 12/16/2005
Address: 20 Wildland Irvine, CA 92603
Beds: | 5 |
Baths: | 5 |
Sq. Ft.: | 3,900 |
$/Sq. Ft.: | $512 |
Lot Size: | 8,367
Sq. Ft. |
Property Type: | Single Family Residence |
Style: | Other |
Stories: | 2 |
View: | Canyon |
Year Built: | 2005 |
Community: | Turtle Ridge |
County: | Orange |
MLS#: | P699886 |
Source: | SoCalMLS |
Status: | Active |
On Redfin: | 2 days |
throughout, Security Systems, Built in Speaker Systems, Chandelier
lighting System throughtout House, Custom made curtains, 20X20
Travertine tiles throughtout downstairs, All Upgraded Viking
Applicances, Cabinets, Counter Tops, Door Knobs, Built in Media Center
and Wall units, Built in Walk in Closet, Custom Paint Throughout with
designer Wall Paper in dining area, Powder Room and Master Bedroom,
Built in BBQ, Water Falls (X2), Large Built in Fire pit, Fruit trees(
Jujube, Peach, Persimmon and Avocado), and much more… Cul-de-sac
Location, Back to private Views and Trees, Very Quiet,
If they spent $300,000 on upgrades, we know where the WTF asking price comes from.
throughtout?
Do you know what Jujube is? I didn’t.
Back to private Views and Trees, Very Quiet? I call BS on that one. This property backs to the intersection where all the traffic in the subdivision comes and goes, and it sides on to a collector street.
What is that staged on the couch?
The owners of this property do have a mortgage over the deduction limit, but even if they had to reduce price, this would not be a short sale. I still think they will fall underwater, but that is not today’s market.
If this property sells for its current asking price and a 6% commission is paid (it will probably only be 5%), the late 2005 buyer and current owner will make $164,620. Perhaps there was no bubble?
The Substitution Effect
People searching for a $2,000,000 property are generally going to look at all the lifestyles available to them. If nearby cities have superior properties and lower prices, people and money will flow there.
Asking Price: $1,999,000
Income Requirement: $499,750
Downpayment Needed: $399,800
Purchase Price: $1,120,000
Purchase Date: 6/23/2002
Address: 2255 BRIDGE Rd Laguna Beach, CA 92651
Beds: | 5 |
Baths: | 4 |
Sq. Ft.: | 3,697 |
$/Sq. Ft.: | $541 |
Lot Size: | 7,500
Sq. Ft. |
Property Type: | Single Family Residence |
Style: | Craftsman |
Stories: | 3+ |
View: | Canyon, Catalina Island, City Lights, Hills, Ocean, Panoramic, Has View |
Year Built: | 1976 |
Community: | Laguna Village |
County: | Orange |
MLS#: | S558331 |
Source: | SoCalMLS |
Status: | Active |
On Redfin: | 233 days |
WELL below the average SOLD price per s/f~ Enjoy remarkable Ocean,
Catalina Island, canyon, and city light views from this stunning true 5
bedroom, 3,697 square foot, three story Laguna Beach home. Each day
brings a new sunset to view from multiple levels of balconies, DUAL
master suites, and a hot tub in the yard to soak up the many views.
Enjoy morning coffee on the patio adjacent to formal living and dining
rooms, or unwind in the family room with corner windows framing in the
stunning landscape. Located on a private cul-de-sac with a two-car
garage, this spacious home resembles the feeling of being in a resort
while in the comfort of your own home. Close to dining, Resorts, John
Wayne Airport and Laguna Canyon.
I guess that $$$ MONSTER price reduction did not close the deal because another one followed. Perhaps their WTF starting price was part of the problem.
Date | Event | Price |
---|---|---|
Aug 20, 2009 | Price Changed | $1,999,000 |
Jul 25, 2009 | Price Changed | $2,095,000 |
Jul 17, 2009 | Price Changed | $2,240,000 |
Feb 10, 2009 | Price Changed | $2,350,000 |
Jan 02, 2009 | Listed | $2,450,000 |
Take a good look at both of these $2,000,000 properties. In your opinion, is the Irvine property as nice as the Laguna Beach one? Personally, I think the views and proximity to the water make the Laguna Beach property far superior, but some may favor the Irvine home for its convenient location.
Competing properties in neighboring communities have an impact on property values. All high-end communities in Orange County equally immune to price declines? If one crashes, with the substitution effect bring them all down? It should.
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The substitution effect also down the housing ladder within the same communities. As prices on properties like the one featured below continue to decline, that will apply pressure on the better properties in the area.
Asking Price: $839,900
Income Requirement: $209,975
Downpayment Needed: $167,980
Purchase Price: $817,000
Purchase Date: 4/17/2008
Address: 39 Bower Tree Irvine, CA 92603
Beds: | 3 |
Baths: | 3 |
Sq. Ft.: | 1,665 |
$/Sq. Ft.: | $504 |
Lot Size: | – |
Property Type: | Condominium |
Style: | Tuscan |
Stories: | 2 |
Floor: | 1 |
Year Built: | 2004 |
Community: | Turtle Ridge |
County: | Orange |
MLS#: | U9003739 |
Source: | SoCalMLS |
Status: | Active |
On Redfin: | 2 days |
PRISTINE ARBOREL PLAN 3 – 3 BEDROOMS + DEN/OFFICE, 2.5 BATHS.
CUSTOMIZED & UPGRADED THROUGHOUT WITH HARDWOOD FLOORS, CROWN
MOLDING, PLANTATION SHUTTERS, CUSTOM PAINT, RECESSED LIGHTING, BUILT-IN
SPEAKERS, FIREPLACE AND MORE. GOURMET KITCHEN WITH STAINLESS STEEL
APPLIANCES, GRANITE COUNTERTOPS, CUSTOM CENTER ISLAND & WALK-IN
PANTRY. REAR YARD WITH BUILT-IN BARBECUE, STONE PATIO & GRASSY
AREA. IMMACULATE MOVE-IN CONDITION. DEN/OFFICE CURRENTLY USED AS
PLAYROOM, COULD BE CONVERTED TO FORMAL DINING ROOM. LOW TAX RATE OF
1.04%, LOW MELLO ROOS APPROX. $2930/YEAR.
ALL CAPS
LOW TAX RATE OF
1.04%? Low compared to what? Isn’t every house taxed at 1% (plus a few miscellaneous fees) because of Proposition 13?
The second property looks suspiciously like a flip gone bad. Our flipper knife catcher paid $817,000 in 2008 for a property that sold for $903,500 in 2005. I imagine they figured they were getting a bargain. It hasn’t worked out in their favor.
The current asking price is 3% over the price they paid. If one of the owners is a realtor, they probably have listed it with a 3% markup to cover the cost of the buyer’s broker. At least that is their thought process. I wonder if comps or the declining market figured into their calculations. It doesn’t look like it.