Category Archives: Short Sale

More HELOC Abuse

I Hate You — Slayer

I get surprisingly little hate mail. Some of the pieces I have received came after HELOC abuse posts. On one of them, I had several women from a support group relay a sob story to me attempting to justify the serial HELOC abuse of their friend. I replied that a group pity-party that enabled and justified their friend’s behavior was not doing her any favors. They were not impressed. So today’s featured song is dedicated to me — it comes from all the realtors, HELOC abusers, disgruntled homeowners, and anyone else who does not fully appreciate the public service we are providing here at the Irvine Housing Blog.

Today’s featured property is another pretender who made themselves look rich by spending the equity from their home in a spiral of ever-increasing debt. I wonder how much HELOC money is under that tree?

4951 Lori Ann Inside

Asking Price: $750,000IrvineRenter

Income Requirement: $187,500

Downpayment Needed: $150,000

Monthly Equity Burn: $6,250

Purchase Price:
$326,000

Purchase Date: 5/1/2001

Address: 4591 Lori Ann, Irvine, CA 92604

Short Sale

Beds: 5
Baths: 4
Sq. Ft.: 2,500
$/Sq. Ft.: $300
Lot Size: 5,594

Sq. Ft.

Property Type: Single Family Residence
Style: Other
Year Built: 1970
Stories: 2 Levels
Area: El Camino Real
County: Orange
MLS#: P640071
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 23 days

This is Gorgeous home in great location!Rebuilt in 2004.Elegant dining
and living area. Fireplace is in Family room. Two masters bedrooms.
Short Sale.

Rebuilt in 2004? I suppose that is where the half million dollars went… not.

This is a classic HELOC abuse story requiring the bullet-point recap:

  • The house was purchased on 5/1/2001 for $326,000. The buyer put 20% down ($65,200) and borrowed $260,800
  • On 10/10/2001 they opened their first HELOC for $50,000.
  • On 1/29/2003 they refinanced with a $310,000 first mortgage.
  • On 4/17/2003 they opened two HELOCs for $38,000 and $82,000 respectively.
  • On 2/25/2004 they opened another HELOC for $107,000.
  • On 11/29/2004 they refinanced with a $650,000 first mortgage.
  • On 2/14/2005 they opened two HELOCs for $66,000 and $125,000 respectively.
  • On 2/15/2007 they refinanced into an Option ARM with a 1% teaser rate for $744,000
  • On 4/3/2007 they opened two HELOCs for $93,000 and $57,000 respectively.
  • Total debt on the property is $894,000.
  • Total Mortgage Equity withdrawal of $633,200 including their original downpayment.

If this property sells for its asking price and a 6% commission is paid, the total loss on the property will be $189,000. Wells Fargo will be absorbing most of that loss with its two HELOCs. Express Capital Lending originated the first mortgage and may be liable for some of the remainder.

Question of the day: Who was acting more foolishly, the lender or the borrower?

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SlayerYou were just a waste of sperm
They way you look
Makes my stomach turn
The way you think
Is no way at all

God you really think you have balls

I hate you aint it true
I hate you and everything you do

You walk around like a f@#$ing dick
And everytime youre near
You know I get real sick

Youre so stupid
Theres nothing in your head
God how I wish that you were dead

I hate you aint it true
I hate you and everything you do


I Hate You
— Slayer

Please Don't Stop The Music

Please Don’t Stop The Music — Rihanna

When I first moved to Irvine, I lived in Oak Creek. It is still one of my favorite neighborhoods. My wife has given me her parameters for what she desires in a home, and today’s featured property perfectly fits her description (now if I could just afford it…) It is in Oak Creek near the elementary school, it has a large yard, it is an open plan, the wood is a medium tone, and the surfaces are a medium tone granite, there is a downstairs den/bedroom, and the home itself is spacious. When prices get to the affordability range, this is the kind of property I will be bidding on.

Today’s featured property is a story of of the Ponzi Scheme / Musical Chairs aspect of the real estate bubble coming to an end. The owner of this property is the one without a chair. I suspect she wishes the music would not have stopped playing.

2 Palmwood Kitchen

Asking Price: $999,999IrvineRenter

Income Requirement: $249,999

Downpayment Needed: $199,999

Monthly Equity Burn: $8,333

Purchase Price:
$1,194,000

Purchase Date: 4/11/2005

Address: 2 Palmwood, Irvine, CA 92618

Short Sale

Beds: 4
Baths: 3
Sq. Ft.: 3,029
$/Sq. Ft.: $330
Lot Size:
Property Type: Single Family Residence
Style: Other
Year Built: 1999
Stories: 2 Levels
Area: Oak Creek
County: Orange
MLS#: S536411
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 5 days

Gorgeously upgraded home located at end of cul-de-sac on extra large
lot in Oak Creek Village in Irvine. Gated Community w/ 3 pools,
clubhouse, parks, and neighborhood elementary school. 3 spacious
bedrooms, including large master suite w/ great walk-in closet and
bathroom. Bonus room upstairs. Large den downstairs as well as living
and dining room, and family room w/ fireplace. Plantation shutters, new
hardwood floors and custom moding on entire first floor….vaulted
ceilings….upgraded carpet. Spacious and functional kitchen w/ kitchen
nook, double ovens, large island, built in refrigerator, granite
counter tops, and stainless steel appliances. Wrought iron staircase,
crown molding, decorator paint, and a 3 car garage. Very close to
Spectrum Center in Irvine. Easy to access I-5 and I-405

moding?

Check out the sales history of this property:

Date Price Appreciation
Jul 08, 1999 $551,500

Mar 30, 2004 $1,035,000

14.2%/yr

Apr 18, 2005 $1,194,000

14.6%/yr

The first owners doubled their money in 5 years. Now that is timing the market.

The second owners made $159,000 in less than one year of ownership. Great trade!

The third owner… well, she didn’t get quite so lucky. She purchased the property in 2005 with a $955,200 first mortgage, a $119,400 second and she put 10% down. She managed to refinance into an Option ARM for $1,088,000 just before the credit crunch in early August 2007. Brilliant move, refinancing into an Option ARM — not. I suspect her plan was to lower her payments and wait out this “minor correction.” Unfortunately, the music is not going to play again, and she either cannot make the payments, or she has realized it is hopeless, and she is getting out of the transaction. Either way the $119,400 she has in the property is gone, and this is going to be a short sale, so her credit is gone too. If this property sells for its asking price, the total loss on the property will be $254,000. I guess the distress in the market is not just at the low end.

Another day, another quarter million dollar loss.

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Please don’t stop the music, music, music, music, music, music.
Please don’t stop the music, music, music, music, music, music.

RihannaIt’s gettin late
I’m making my way over to my favorite place
I gotta get my body moving shake the stress away
I wasn’t looking for nobody when you looked my way
Possible candidate (yeah)
Who knew
That you’d be up in here lookin like you do
You’re makin’ stayin’ over here impossible
Baby I must say your aura is incredible
If you don’t have to go don’t

Do you know what you started
I just came here to party
But now we’re rockin on the dance floor
Acting naughty
Your hands around my waist
Just let the music play
We’re hand in hand
Chest to chest
And now we’re face to face

I wanna take you away
Lets escape into the music
DJ let it play
I just can’t refuse it
Like the way you do this
Keep on rockin to it
Please don’t stop the
Please don’t stop the music

Please Don’t Stop The Music — Rihanna

A Thorn In His Side

Every Rose Has Its Thorn — Poison

Northwood II is speculator central. I have heard that the builder was requiring owners to have downpayments and good credit to purchase in this development. Perhaps they knew we were near a peak of the bubble and didn’t want to face lawsuits when prices crashed. There are many homes for sale in this neighborhood, and most of the properties are distressed. Some knife catcher will step up and buy this one — at least the lenders hope so. They are already looking at close to a half a million dollar loss.

Do you ever stop to ponder the massive losses the lenders are absorbing? It is difficult to get to worked up over the losses from faceless corporations who conjure money out of thin air, but these loss figures are simply staggering. I am amazed none of our major banks has declared bankruptcy yet.

Today’s featured property is a beautiful, high-end domicile. When the price gets down to $650,000, it will be a good buy. I wonder if someone will step up and take the next $300,000 loss? I think I will wait.

59 Fire Thorn Front 59 Fire Thorn Plan

59 Fire Thorn Inside

Asking Price: $950,000IrvineRenter

Income Requirement: $237,500

Downpayment Needed: $190,000

Monthly Equity Burn: $7,916

Purchase Price: $1,161,000

Purchase Date: 7/19/2006

Address: 59 Fire Thorn, Irvine, CA 92620

Short Sale

Beds: 5
Baths: 4
Sq. Ft.: 3,070
$/Sq. Ft.: $309
Lot Size: 5,350

Sq. Ft.

Property Type: Single Family Residence
Style: Contemporary/Modern
Year Built: 2004
Stories: 2 Levels
Area: Northwood
County: Orange
MLS#: R806000
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 1 day

New Listing (24 hours)

Gourmet Kitchen Award

Lovely executive home in a gated community with an inviting open floor
plan featuring a central gourmet kitchen as well as a resort-like
backyard and dramatic motor court. Custom stone, water features, and
tropical plants throughout all provides the resort feeling in your own
home! Separate guest quarters with back entrance over the garage is
perfect for guests, live-ins or a get-away office. Enormous master
bedroom with spacious retreat, spa bath and large walk-in closet. Stone
floors throughout with rich black walnut hardwood in the bedrooms.
Additional interior and exterior insulation added in walls, floors and
ceilings at the time of construction to conserve energy and reduce any
sound. Two air conditioning units to maximize zone efficiency. Rare
Custom back yard spa with fountains and many extras! Entire home wired
for sound and routed for any use, computers, TV’s etc… Cul-de-sac
street with tree-lined neighborhood.

That is a well-written description. There are a few sentence fragments, clichés and minor errors, but it did not pain me to read it.

This owner has already “put” this property to the lender. The property was purchased near the peak for $1,161,000. The owner took out a first mortgage for $870,478, and got a HELOC approved for $450,000 the same day. If he borrowed this money, he cashed-out $159,478 at the closing. On 4/23/2007 Chevy Chase Bank loaned him $1,065,000 and National City Bank gave him a second mortgage for $284,000 leaving a total debt of $1,349,000. The total MEW was $188,000. Not bad for a guy who bought at the peak. I wish I knew how he got his loans approved. If this property sells for its asking price, and if a 6% commission is paid, the total loss on the property will be $456,000. The brilliant lenders who made these loans just over a year ago are eating a huge loss while this owner walks away with $188,000.

I have to remember to screw the lender at the top of the next bubble California inflates…

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PoisonWe both lie silently still
in the dead of the night
Although we both lie close together
We feel miles apart inside

Was it something I said or something I did
Did my words not come out right
Though I tried not to hurt you
Though I tried
But I guess that’s why they say

Chorus:
Every rose has its thorn
Just like every night has its dawn
Just like every cowboy sings his sad, sad song
Every rose has its thorn

Yeah it does

I listen to our favorite song
playing on the radio
Hear the DJ say loves a game of easy come and easy go
But I wonder does he know
Has he ever felt like this
And I know that you’d be here right now
If I could let you know somehow
I guess

Chorus

Though it’s been a while now
I can still feel so much pain
Like a knife that cuts you the wound heals
but the scar, that scar will remain

Solo

I know I could saved a love that night
If I’d known what to say
Instead of makin’ love
We both made our separate ways

and now I hear you found somebody new
and that I never meant that much to you
To hear that tears me up inside
And to see you cuts me like a knife
I guess

Every Rose Has Its Thorn — Poison

Send In The Clowns

Send In The Clowns — Stephen Sondheim / Frank Sinatra

This market desperately needs more knife catchers. There are just too many properties that need to be sold and too small a number of people to buy them. I suppose we aren’t helping matters any at the IHB ;).

I hope everyone is getting a laugh out of the daily posts here. The carnage we are witnessing — and will continue to witness — isn’t funny for the people losing money. Residential real estate bubbles are very painful when they deflate. I vacillate between sadness and laughter reviewing these properties all the time. You have to be able to laugh at the grim happenings in life. Life is too short to be bummed out all the time.

Today’s featured property is another speculator who is getting flushed out of the housing market. Not to worry though, he has extracted all the equity and is passing the loss on to the lender.

114 Townsend Front 114 Townsend Kitchen

Asking Price: $549,000IrvineRenter

Income Requirement: $137,250

Downpayment Needed: $109,800

Monthly Equity Burn: $4,575

Purchase Price: $612,500

Purchase Date: 8/30/2005

Address 114 Townsend, Irvine, CA 92620

Short Sale

Beds: 3
Baths: 3
Sq. Ft.: 1,876
$/Sq. Ft.: $293
Lot Size:
Property Type: Condominium
Style: Contemporary
Year Built: 2005
Stories: 3+ Levels
Area: Woodbury
County: Orange
MLS#: S536663
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 2 days

Wow,fantastic property located in wonderful community of Woodbury,with
Resort like life style,this beauty has 3 bedrooms,3 baths,one bedroom
and bath on first floor,kitchen and living room and dining room and one
bed and bath on 2nd floor and master bedroom on 3rd floor.Fantastic
floor plan for active families,upgraded kitchen w/granite counter tops
and upgraded cabinetries,clean and bright home.

Note to realtor: in English, we put spaces after punctuation marks.

This property was purchased in late 2005 for $612,500. The owner put 10% down. In September of 2007, he managed to increase his credit line on his HELOC to extract all his equity (I can’t believe a lender approved this after the credit crunch in August.) Of course, now the lender is going to eat the loss. It isn’t likely this will sell for its asking price as it is probably 10% over market, but if it did, the total loss after a 6% commission would be $96,440. The lender must feel really good about extending that HELOC.

Thus concludes another week at the Irvine Housing Blog. Come back next week as we continue chronicling ‘the seventh circle of real estate hell.’ Have a great weekend.

🙂

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Frank SinatraIsn’t it rich? Are we a pair?
Me here at last on the ground and you in mid-air
Send in the clowns

Isn’t it bliss? Don’t you approve?
One who keeps tearing around and one who can’t move
But where are the clowns? Send in the clowns

Just when I stopped opening doors
Finally finding the one that I wanted was yours
Making my entrance again with my usual flair

Sure of my lines
Nobody’s there

Don’t you love a farce? My fault, I fear
I thought that you’d want what I want, sorry my dear
But where are the clowns? Send in the clowns
Don’t bother they’re here

Isn’t it rich? Isn’t it queer?
Losing my timing this late in my career
But where are the clowns? Send in the clowns
Well, maybe next year

Send In The Clowns — Stephen Sondheim / Frank Sinatra

Bubble Trouble

Trouble — Coldplay

Do rational people still deny there was a housing bubble? Today’s featured property is being offered 25% off its peak purchase price. It is one of many. There was a recent post over at South OC Tracker with a property 60% off in Aliso Viejo. Those kind of price drops are not a correction below value, they are the deflating of a bubble to value. Prices are not going to quickly rebound to peak values from an undervalued condition. They are going to drop to rental value and remain there until the toxic mortgages and overextended homeowners are purged from the market.

Today’s featured property is another 100% financing deal gone bad. One of many yet to be purged from the system.

24 Burlingame Kitchen

Asking Price: $485,000IrvineRenter

Income Requirement: $121,250

Downpayment Needed: $97,000

Monthly Equity Burn: $4,041

Purchase Price: $650,000

Purchase Date: 8/18/2006

Address: 24 Burlingame, Irvine, CA 92602

Beds: 2
Baths: 3
Sq. Ft.: 1,552
$/Sq. Ft.: $312
Lot Size:
Property Type: Condominium
Style: Contemporary/Modern
Year Built: 2000
Stories: 2 Levels
View: Park or Green Belt
Area: Northpark
County: Orange
MLS#: P641854
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 6 days

Gourmet Kitchen Award

Inside the stunning guarded gates of resort style Northpark, minutes
from Tustin Marketplace. This home features luxury living, the gourmet
island kitchen you have dreamed of, soaring vaulted ceilings. Dual
master suites with an attached 2 car garage. You do not want to pass up
this beautiful home.

Is it just me, or does anyone else see a face in the left side of the front elevation?

If this property sells for its asking price, WMC Mortgage is going to lose $194,100 after a 6% commission. The piggy-back mortgage is a total loss, and the first mortgage is going to feel some pain.

For entertainment value, I often go over to the OC Register blog and read the comments of the bulls. They are case study in market
denial. When people take a position in a financial market, they often
lose their objectivity in reviewing the flow of data. Every piece of
information is interpreted as reaffirming the correctness of their
original decision to take a position. It is comical to read the
comments of the bulls. Every piece of market data that is unequivocally
bearish is simply dismissed. Every piece of market data that is 90%
bearish and 10% bullish is taken as bullish. Lately, there has been no
other kind of market data. This denial takes an enormous amount of
emotional energy as the market will force what Mark Douglas calls “a painful forced awareness” on its participants. I suppose it is
a natural human reaction. Nobody likes to admit a mistake, particularly
after they have made arrogant, and completely incorrect, statements to
family, friends and coworkers. Rather than eat their words, they
maintain denial to the bitter end. After the fact, many will likely
blame unforeseen, outside factors rather than admit they had no idea
what they were doing, and they were completely wrong. We offer comfort
here by telling people it is all OK if they can afford the property. We
all know it really isn’t OK. There are still people holding stocks they
purchased at the peak of the stock market bubble. I doubt they feel it
is OK because they were buying for the long term. You don’t lose money
until you sell, right? Bull$hit.

mistake

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ColdplayO no, I see,
A spider web is tangled up with me,
And I lost my head,
The thought of all the stupid things I’d said.

O no, what’s this?
A spider web, and I’m caught in the middle,
So I turn to run,
The thought of all the stupid things I’ve done,

And I never meant to cause you trouble,
I never meant to do you wrong,
And I, well if I ever caused you trouble,
And oh no, I never meant to do you harm.

O no, I see,
A spider web and it’s me in the middle,
So I twist and turn,
Here am I in my little bubble,

Singing I, I never meant to cause you trouble,
And I, I never meant to do you wrong,
And I, if I ever caused you trouble,
Oh, no I never meant to do you harm.

They spun a web for me,
They spun a web for me,
They spun a web for me.

Trouble — Coldplay