Category Archives: Short Sale

Big Wedge

Big Wedge — Fish

Are we selling out tomorrow for today? The takeover of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae has opened the door for a massive government bailout. Since we are already running a large budget deficit, any bailout would be debt financed. As such, we are borrowing from future tax receipts to pay today for the sins of lenders, speculators and others who foolishly bought more house than they could afford.

The whole mortgage market bailout is yet another false hope for troubled homeowners. The bulls are somehow convinced that the problem of insolvency can be rectified through even more borrowing. People have too much debt already. That is the problem. Giving them more is not the answer. I believe you are going to see two things happen with the government in control: 1. There will be more workouts and refinancing of existing debt. 2. Credit standards will continue to tighten and interest rates and fees will continue to rise for new mortgages. There is not much the government can do with the existing toxic loans it must now make good on. It will do what workouts it can, and it will foreclose on the rest. It has a great deal of control over the new mortgages it writes going forward. It seems unlikely to me that the government would suddenly embrace all the practices that proved so disastrous during the bubble in order to prop up prices. It is one thing to minimize the losses you have, it is quite another to create new losses through foolish lending practices.

The cynics (and the bulls) believe the government will lower credit standards and write a plethora of new bad loans simply to support current price levels. This would amount to a huge, direct government subsidy to homeowners. The Government is stupid, and they do have political pressures to deal with, but they are not that stupid. Right now the focus is on limiting the damage and letting the bubble unwind without losing the secondary mortgage market causing a complete seizure of our credit markets. The government is not concerned with resale house values in Irvine, California. Everyone knows prices must come down, the only issue is how can this occur with the least amount of disruption to our financial system. Prices will stabilize, they will just do so at a much lower price level — A price level supportable by incomes where the borrowers are solvent and not prone to default on their loans.

Today’s featured property is a short sale that has been garnering a lot of attention in Northwood. Apparently there are multiple offers. After 47 days on the market, I guess everyone just discovered it… Or perhaps the realtors are lying…

10 Wedgewood Kitchen

Asking Price: $525,000IrvineRenter

Income Requirement: $131,250

Downpayment Needed: $105,000

Monthly Equity Burn: $4,375

Purchase Price: $720,000

Purchase Date: 6/17/2004

Address: 10 Wedgewood, Irvine, CA 92620

Beds: 3
Baths: 3
Sq. Ft.: 1,561
$/Sq. Ft.: $336
Lot Size: 4,096

Sq. Ft.

Property Type: Single Family Residence
Style: Contemporary
Year Built: 1997
Stories: 2 Levels
Area: Northwood
County: Orange
MLS#: S541612
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 47 days

Upgraded Wood Floor throughout, Wooden Shutters in Master Bedroom and
Living Room. Excellent Location at the End of Cul De Sac! Walking
Distance to Elementary School. Move in condition in Fabulouse Gated
Community….

Fabulouse?

This is a deep rollback of a 2004 price: 27%. We have been seeing many properties almost 30% off the peak, but nearly 30% off a 2004 price is more rare. Is it a bargain? Would it rent for $3,281? It may not be far from breakeven for an owner-occupant. I can remember seeing nearby comparable property for rent in early 2007 for $2,800 (on Bristlecone), so I don’t think we are quite down to rental parity, but this one is certainly closer to the bottom than to the top.

This was a conservative speculation by recent blog standards. The woman who bought this as her sole and separate property paid $720,000 on 6/27/2004. She used a $576,000 first mortgage, a $72,000 second and a $72,000 downpayment. There were no refinances. If this property sells for its asking price, the total loss will be $226,500. The seller will lose her $72,000 downpayment, and the lender will lose the remaining $154,500.

I hope you have enjoyed this week at the Irvine Housing Blog. Come back next week as we
continue chronicling ‘the seventh circle of real estate hell.’ Have a great weekend.

🙂

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I found a new religion yesterday, I’d just cleared immigration jfk
A priest got in a cadillac, the shoe shine boy sang gospel
As God and his accountants drove away.
You’ll see him coast to coast on live tv, in a stadium
Rocked by satan just the night before
The collection from the faithful is tax free
It’ll pay for his presidential campaign and his yacht

And we all bow down, we bow down to the big wedge
And we’ll buy ourselves some heaven on earth
We sell our souls, sell our souls for big wedge
Are we selling out tomorrow for today?

A surgeon checks your plastic on the telephone
A casio concerto entertains you while you hold
Your credit rating’s good for a madonna or a bardot
A dali or a picasso for his wall.

You’re looking good, looking good with big wedge
Are you holding back tomorrow for today?
They’re driving in, driving in with big wedge
Are we selling out tomorrow for today?


Big Wedge
— Fish

Mandrake

Mandrake Root — Deep Purple

You have the power. It is A Buyer’s Market. Did you ever think you would see properties under $200/SF again? How about $162/SF? Today’s featured property caused one commenter yesterday to opine, “This must be bottom.” Is it? The price drops have been so dramatic and come so fast on many properties that people can’t get their mind around the valuations. A property selling for 26% off its peak purchase price of just two years ago seems cheap. When viewed through the lens of 2006 prices, it is. However, when viewed through from the perspective of fundamental valuations, a property like today’s featured property is still overpriced. People did not put much effort into understanding prices when they were rising, after all, prices always go up — not. People assume that market prices are fair value and any discount from that price a bargain. When viewed from a broader perspective of valuations based on rents and incomes, the degree of price inflation becomes clear, and the amount prices have yet to fall also becomes apparent. Today’s featured property is probably closer to the bottom than to the top, but at $559,900, it still requires a rental rate of $3,500 a month to reach a breakeven threshold for an owner-occupant. Does this look like a $3,500 a month property to you?

3 Mandrake Kitchen

Asking Price: $559,900IrvineRenter

Income Requirement: $139,975

Downpayment Needed: $111,980

Monthly Equity Burn: $4,665

Purchase Price: $760,000

Purchase Date: 2/9/2006

Address: 3 Mandrake, Irvine, CA 92612

Beds: 4
Baths: 3
Sq. Ft.: 3,448
$/Sq. Ft.: $162
Lot Size: 3,200

Sq. Ft.

Property Type: Single Family Residence
Style: Traditional
Year Built: 1967
Stories: Split-Level
View: Park or Green Belt
Area: University Park
County: Orange
MLS#: S546847
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 1 day

New Listing (24 hours)

One of the largest 4 bedroom homes in University Park with some great
features……..includes a fancy spiral staircase, large livingroom
separate family room, formal dining and added den. If you like to
entertain you have to see this house………separate but open and
flowing rooms. Don’t forget to take a look at the kitchen……and the
view!!! This home is in a great location surrounded by greenbelts and
overlooks a park. Walking distance to the association pools, spa,
tennis courts, basketball courts, volley ball courts and racquet ball
courts.

Fancy spiral staircase? It looks like it was recycled off a naval ship.

Apparently, they really like their pool table… and their dog…

Why is there a giant flat screen in the corner of the dining room?

I think they bought out the local Persian Rug store.

The stool prominently displayed in the kitchen is a nice touch as well. Why would you put a stool there?

They definitely have some serious computing power. I can’t criticize it too much as I have a similar setup…

With the way they raved about the view, you would think the Pacific Ocean was out back…

This property was purchased on 2/9/2206 for $760,000. The owner used a $608,000 first mortgage, a $76,000 HELOC and a $76,000 downpayment. On 10/22/2006 he refinanced with a $675,000 Option ARM and opened a HELOC for $135,000 raising his total debt to $810,000. $50,000 for 8 months ownership: not bad. Of course, now that values have dropped, he is leaving the lender holding the bag. If this sells for its asking price, and if a 6% commission is paid, Paul Financial LLC stands to lose $283,694. The owner will walk away with his $50,000. Perhaps the new buyer can go borrow from Peter to pay off Paul…

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I’ve got a Mandrake Root
It’s some thunder in my brain
I feed it to my babe
She thunders just the same
Food of love sets her flame
Ah, stick it up

I’ve got the Mandrake Root
Baby’s just the same
She still feels a quiver
She’s still got the flame
She slows down, slows right down
I’ve got the power

Mandrake Root — Deep Purple

29% Off and Falling

Sky Starts Falling — Doves

Is the sky really falling? I guess it depends on whether or not you associate falling real estate prices with the end of the world. Real estate prices are falling, and they will continue to do so until prices are affordable again. With all of the talk about stabilizing the housing market, people overlook the benefits of affordable housing. If people can live in a property and only spend 28% of their income on it, they have money left over for other uses. The economy will benefit from lower prices as discretionary consumer spending will increase. Of course, if you believe in perpetual Ponzi Scheme financing, we can always fuel our economy on ever-increasing debt loads justified by inflated real estate values. However, we just tried that, and so far the results haven’t been too encouraging. We grossly misappropriated resources to non-productive uses, we overbuilt home improvement shopping centers, and we employed too many people in real estate related professions. The inevitable collapse of the Ponzi Scheme has left us deeply in debt, with an insolvent banking system, and with an economic recession. It will take many years for the California economy to readjust from the housing bubble just as it did in the early and mid 90s. The allocation of resources must change, and it will not be a pleasant process. I hope the California economy that emerges is rooted in something productive rather than another unsustainable Ponzi Scheme.

Today’s featured property is another loser in our real estate game of musical chairs. When the music stopped, today’s owner had taken out all the equity and left the lender is without a chair.

10 Orangetip Kitchen

Asking Price: $499,900IrvineRenter

Income Requirement: $124,975

Downpayment Needed: $99,980

Monthly Equity Burn: $4,165

Purchase Price: $699,000

Purchase Date: 4/13/2006

Address: 10 Orangetip, Irvine, CA 92604

Beds: 3
Baths: 3
Sq. Ft.: 1,785
$/Sq. Ft.: $280
Lot Size: 2,568

Sq. Ft.

Property Type: Single Family Residence
Style: Contemporary
Year Built: 2006
Stories: 2 Levels
Area: El Camino Real
County: Orange
MLS#: P654243
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 7 days

SHORT SALE Model perfect home in the heart of Irvine. Highly upgraded
home with wood floors, two toned paint, custom banisters, designer
carpet, granite, stone and shutters. Upstairs masters has a retreat and
oversized dressing room, walk-in closet and nicely appointed bath.
Backyard has a great patio perfect for entertaining. Neighborhood has
no mello roos, low tax rate and close to everything. In the much sought
after Irvine High School disrtict. Close to shopping, parks, and
freeways. Association includes pools, spa, and tennis courts.

Do you like the $499,900? Why not $499,999.99 and 9/10. If you are going to price like a used car dealership or a gas station, why not go all the way?

Highly upgraded? As opposed to lightly upgraded? Or just upgraded? Or perhaps downgraded? Maybe flippers will start tearing out the good stuff and putting in the junk you see in mobile homes…

How do you like the patio “perfect for entertaining?” I thought I was looking at the grounds of Versailles.

This property was purchased on 4/13/2006 fir $699,000. The owner used a $534,171 first mortgage, a $142,445 second, and a $22,304 downpayment. He refinanced on 5/1/2007 with a $588,000 first mortgage and a $110,100 HELOC effectively pulling out all but $900 of his downpayment. He is now offering it for sale at 29% less than his purchase price. Assuming this short sale is approved, a buyer is found at this price, and a 6% commission is paid, the total loss on the property will be $229,094. Taylor Bean & Witaker Mortgage Corporation will lose on the first mortgage, and Citibank will lose their HELOC money.

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Who am I supposed to be?
I can’t be sure that the next one will see me

And if the sky starts falling on the street outside
The only thing that satisfies
If the sky starts falling on the heads outside
The only thing that keeps me alive

If you see her again, be sure to say hello
Be sure to send my love
Did she seem like before
Could you seem above it all
Be sure to send my love

Wake up, waking up to see
It’s a sign
That what will be will be

And if the sky starts falling on the street outside
The only thing that satisfies
If the sky starts falling on the heads outside
The only thing that keeps me alive

Sky Starts Falling — Dove

Money Talks

Money Talks — AC/DC

There have been some rumblings about the declining inventory numbers and the slight uptick in sales in Irvine. Perhaps it is signaling a bottom in pricing? This doesn’t seem likely, particularly with the Alt-A and Prime ARMs due to reset over the coming few years. The fact remains that REOs continue to enter the market, and they continue to drive prices lower to find buyers. Until that stops occurring, prices will not stabilize much less appreciate. Today’s featured property is 35% off its 2005 purchase price, and the lender recently reduced the price drastically to find a buyer.

34 New Season Kitchen

Asking Price: $339,900IrvineRenter

Income Requirement: $67,980

Downpayment Needed: $84,975

Monthly Equity Burn: $2,832

Purchase Price: $520,000

Purchase Date: 12/23/2005

Address: 34 New Season, Irvine, CA 92602

Beds: 2
Baths: 2
Sq. Ft.: 1,190
$/Sq. Ft.: $286
Lot Size:
Property Type: Condominium
Style: Traditional
Year Built: 2006
Stories: Split-Level
Floor: 2
Area: Northpark
County: Orange
MLS#: P648984
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 35 days

Huge Price Reduction!!!! Wonderful new Irvine Community with Tennis
Court, Parks, Pool, BBQ area. Property has Dual Master Suites, open
kitchen, attached 2 car garage. Close to new schools, shopping and
freeway; close to Beckman High School. Perfect for first time buyers.
Front patio perfect for entertaining ready for you to customize. A must
see!!

This property is even more of a loss for the various lenders than it appears. The property was purchased for $520,000, but the owner managed to refinance into a $456,000 first and a $114,000 second pulling out $50,000 before he quit making payments and walked away. Wells Fargo held the first mortgage debt, and they only bid $360,000 for the property securing their $456,000 mortgage. Obviously, the loss mitigation procedures have changed at these banks. Surprisingly, there were no buyers even at $360,000, so they ended up with the property. After a month in fantasy land trying to get back most of the $456,000 mortgage, they have lowered the price to move the property. At $339,000, this is approaching rental parity at $2,124 per month. If this property sells for its asking price, the total loss after a 6% commission will be $250,494 based on the refinance amount of $570,000.

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Yeow! Tailored suits, chauffered cars
Fine hotels and big cigars
Up for grabs, up for a price
Where the red hot girls keep on dancing through the night
The claim is in you
The sights are on me
So what do you do
That’s guaranteed
Hey little girl, you want it all
The furs, the diamonds, the painting on the wall

Come on, come on, marry me for the money
Come on, come on, listen to the moneytalk
Come on, come on, marry me for the money
Come on, come on, listen to the moneytalk

A French maid, foreign chef
A big house with king size bed
You’ve had enough, you ship them out
The dollar’s up-down, you’d better buy the pound
[ Find more Lyrics at www.mp3lyrics.org/b6K ]
The claim is on you
The sights are on me
So what do you do
That’s guaranteed
Hey little girl, you broke the laws
You hustle, you deal, you steal from us all

Come on, come on, marry me for the money
Come on, come on. listen to the moneytalk
Come on, come on, marry me for the money
Come, come on, listen to the moneytalk
Moneytalks, yeah, yeah

Money talks, B.S. walks
Money talks, come on, come on


Money Talks
— AC/DC

Vintage Wine

Vintage Wine — Moody Blues

Isn't real estate supposed to be like vintage wines that get better with age? Rare vintage wines can get very expensive, and unless they turn to vinegar, their prices do always go up. Well it appears the 2006 vintage homes are all turning to vinegar now because they certainly are not appreciating in value.

Today I want to relay a story to you that was told to me by a real estate developer currently buying property in one of our most blighted California bubble markets. His company is purchasing this particular property from the bank for far less than the original loan amount. Do you remember the residual land value calculations from Land Value 101? This particular property was ready for the construction and sale of houses in 2003. The original prices were $400,000 in this particular market. By 2006, houses were selling for $700,000. When sales volumes plummeted, the builder gave up and let the property go back to the bank. The developer ran a proforma using a $275,000 house price. As you can imagine, this did not leave a large residual land value. The bank took the offer. This developer knows he can build and sell houses profitably for $275,000 in this particular market. If prices increase, he stands to reap a windfall. His only real concern is the competition from the REOs, particularly all the previously built homes in this subdivision he is undercutting by over 50%. He knows he is probably going to cause more walkaways, but prices are what they are, and as long as he can build and sell $275,000 houses, it isn't his problem.

Fortunately, for those living in Irvine, the developer is financially stable, and it is concerned about long-term house prices and probably will not cut prices over 50% to move homes. As we noted with the problems in Columbus Grove, those who are off the Ranch are not so lucky. Today's featured property is another of the bad 2006 vintage properties in Woodbury. This seller is really being hosed by his competition as he owes $184,000 more on his property than his comparable neighbor is asking for sale.

142 Vintage Kitchen

Asking Price: $489,000IrvineRenter

Income Requirement: $122,250

Downpayment Needed: $97,800

Monthly Equity Burn: $4,075

Purchase Price: $554,500

Purchase Date: 10/12/2005

Address: 142 Vintage, Irvine, CA 92620

Beds: 3
Baths: 3
Sq. Ft.: 1,526
$/Sq. Ft.: $321
Lot Size:
Property Type: Condominium
Style: Mediterranean
Year Built: 2005
Stories: 3+ Levels
Floor: 1
View: Hills, Mountain
Area: Woodbury
County: Orange
MLS#: S529072
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 133 days

Unsold in 90+ days

Gourmet Kitchen Award

Beautiful living space in the heart of Woodbury. Enter the outdoor living area down a walkway that opens into a private courtyard with outside fireplace where neighbors gather around patio table & chairs. Ground floor entry with bedroom converted into a home office with built-in. Go upstairs to main level with spacious living room with fireplace & custom built media center. Open plan gourmet kitchen with granite countertops & island, maple cabinets & stainless steel appliances. Top level features the master suite with walk-in closet. The master bath has dual sinks with marble countertops, tub surround and separate shower enclosure. Community amenities include 5 pools, basketball, tennis and volleyball courts. Wonderful, new shopping centers with restaurants. Convenient to 5 freeway and 241 toll road.

That is a well written description. It is so rare, I thought it necessary to comment on it.

This property was purchased on 10/12/2005 for $554,000. The owners used a $443,000 first mortgage, a $110,700 second mortgage and put $300 down. On 3/21/2007 they refinanced their second for $141,000 pulling out a quick $30,000. Now that prices are dropping and they got all they could out of the property, they see no need to keep paying the big debt, so they are walking away. Does anyone blame them? Does anyone think we won't be seeing a lot more of this?

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I remember the taste of the vintage wine

From '63 through to '69

And I'm proud of the things we believed in then

If I had the chance I'd go around again

Oh I tell you

We were young and free

Oh I'll tell you

'Cause I was there you see

And I look to the future with open arms

And the songs that flow from my old guitar

And I want to be there when the music plays

And the lights go up on the empty stage

Oh I tell you

Music set me free

Oh I tell you

It sounds so good to me

Vintage Wine — Moody Blue