Category Archives: Real Estate Owned

The REO Next Door

Earlier this year I profiled an REO on Lakepines that is now a 2003 rollback. The next-door neighbor is trying to sell for 30% more. Good luck with that.

16 Lakepines inside

Asking Price: $289,000

Address: 16 Lakepines, Irvine, CA 92620

17 Lakepines inside 17 Lakepines kitchen

Asking Price: $375,000

Address: 17 Lakepines, Irvine, CA 92620

Girl Next Door — Saving Jane

I’m a little bitter
Everybody loves her but I just wanna hit her

She’s Miss America and I’m just the girl next door
Oh and I’m just the girl next door

It must be very frustrating for seller when the propery right next to yours is put up for sale at a price 30% less. Those who are most reality-challenged can ignore the huge problem this creates, but buyers and lenders will not. The fact is that a neighboring comp selling at a 30% discount reduces your value 30%. You must either reduce your price or fail to sell the property. Or I suppose there is one more option…

I first profiled one of our two featured properties in by post on Housing and Tax Policy. In January, 16 Lakepines was asking $335,000. The property has been relisted for $289,000.

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16 Lakepines inside

Asking Price: $289,000IrvineRenter

Income Requirement: $72,250

Downpayment Needed: $57,800

Monthly Equity Burn: $2,408

Purchase Price: $450,000

Purchase Date: 5/18/2006

Address: 16 Lakepines, Irvine, CA 92620

Beds: 2
Baths: 2.5
Sq. Ft.: 1,204
$/Sq. Ft.: $240
Lot Size: 868

Sq. Ft.

Property Type: Attached, Condominium
Style: Contemporary
Year Built: 1977
Stories: 2
County: Orange
MLS#: C09032959
Source: MRMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 8 days

ANOTHER GREAT LISTED BANK OWNED PROPERTY N THE CITY OF IRVINE. COME
SHOW YOUR CLIENTS THIS AMPLE 2 BEDROOM 2 BATH CONDO CENTRALLY LOCATED
AND SITUATED ON A WELL CARED FOR COMPLEX WITH RELAXING WALKING AREAS.
LARGE PRIVATE PATIO JUST IN TIME FOR THE COMING SUMMER DAYS AMONG THE
AMMENITIES IN THE COMPLEX LIKE POOL AND SPA. PLEASE SEE AGENT REMARKS
IN ORDER TO EXPEDITE PRESENTING YOUR OFFER AND SHOWING INSTRUCTIONS.

ANOTHER GREAT LISTED BANK OWNED PROPERTY N THE CITY OF IRVINE. I love that lead.

I wonder if this REO was listed by an agent, or if the lender thinks that using ALL CAPS is just how property descriptions are written?

The total loss on this property stands at $178,340 assuming it sells for asking and a 6% commission is paid.

Check out this price history.

Date Event Price
Jan 16, 2009 Listed $335,000
Dec 19, 2008 Listed $335,000
May 18, 2006 Sold $450,000
Sep 11, 2003 Sold $329,000
Oct 26, 1999 Sold $155,000
Jun 27, 1991 Sold $157,500
Nov 28, 1990 Sold $122,500
Feb 16, 1989 Sold $137,000

This property is now a 2003 rollback.

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I wonder how short-sale prices are set. The owner of our second property is 30% higher than the neighbor, and it is short sale. As a short-sale seller, why do you care what the price is? You are not paying it; it is a short sale. Is the lender telling this seller, “Price it at $375,000. I don’t care what the comps are?” I can understand stupid pricing when it is being set by greedy and ignorant sellers, but why is the lender demanding… oops, I think I just answered my own question.

17 Lakepines inside 17 Lakepines kitchen

Asking Price: $375,000IrvineRenter

Income Requirement: $93,750

Downpayment Needed: $75,000

Monthly Equity Burn: $3,125

Purchase Price: $457,000

Purchase Date: 1/19/2007

Address: 17 Lakepines, Irvine, CA 92620

Beds: 2
Baths: 3
Sq. Ft.: 1,366
$/Sq. Ft.: $275
Lot Size: 828

Sq. Ft.

Property Type: Single Family Residence
Style: Townhouse
Year Built: 1977
Stories: 2
View: Trees/Woods, Has View
Area: Northwood
County: Orange
MLS#: S563896
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 39 days

Affordable, spacious 2 story home in beautiful, convenient area of
Irvine. Recently painted exterior in modern tones. Entry foyer leads to
sunny morning breakfast nook in tiled kitchen and large formal dining
room overlooking landscaped year patio area. Many tall windows and
vaulted ceilings. Customized living room offers additional wall space!
Skylight brightens big master with vaulted ceiling and private view
balcony. Large 2 car garage w/ direct access. Association includes 2
lighted tennis courts & 2 pool & spa areas. Sold As -Is Short
Sale.

Affordable? Yes, it probably is affordable to someone who would not be willing to live there.

Fortunately, for today’s seller, lenders were still giving out 100% financing in January of 2007; the owner paid $457,000 by using a $365,600 first mortgage, a $91,400 second mortgage and a $0 downpayment. If this property sells for its asking price, and if a 6% commission is paid, the total lender loss will be $104,500.

That doesn’t sound so bad, does it? Some lender or investor somewhere is getting a field report saying they will lose around $100,000 on this deal. Based on the property next door, they will really lose closer to $200,000. Is it no wonder everyone is having a hard time pricing toxic assets.

{book7}

Senior class president
She must be heaven sent
She was never the last one standing
A backseat debutaunt
Everything that you want
Never to harsh or too demanding
Maybe I’ll admit it
I’m a little bitter
Everybody loves her but I just wanna hit her

She is the prom queen I’m in the marching band
She is a cheerleader I’m sitting in the stands
She gets the top bunk I’m sleeping on the floor
She’s Miss America and I’m just the girl next door
Oh and I’m just the girl next door

Girl Next Door — Saving Jane

Fear Is Gripping the Market

Back in September of 2007, I asked the question in a post Is Fear Gripping the Market? Fast-forward to 2009, and I think it is safe to say that fear rules the day.

Today’s featured property is REO that recently sold at auction for 36% off its peak purchase price.

3562 Myrtle kitchen

Asking Price: $593,900

Address: 3562 Myrtle, Irvine, CA 92606

{book6}

The Fear — Lily Allen

Life’s about film stars and less about mothers
It’s all about fast cars concussing each other
But it doesn’t matter cause I’m packing plastic
and that’s what makes my life so f#@$ing fantastic

Remember the good ol’ days of mindless consumerism when houses used to replenish plastic purchasing power faster than pretentious pricks could piss it away. Back then it was trendy to lease your car and own your house; a brilliant way to lose both in a financial downturn.

The people who lived the good life are facing the end of the lifestyles to which they have become accustomed. The reality of this truth is becoming apparent as they release their denial and face their fears…

OMG! NO!

NO! NO! NO!

I want to be rich and I want lots of money

MAKE HOUSE PRICES GO BACK UP! (bargaining)

[silence]

ISN’T THE GOVERNMENT OR THE FED GOING TO SAVE US? (bargaining and recalling past denial)

[silence]

THAT SUCKS! (acceptance)

[silence and a moment of peace]

The psychology of a market is the aggregate of all its participants. Most at the low end have already passed through denial, bargaining, and fear; they have capitulated and reached acceptance. Many at the high end are still in denial, but with the struggling economy, the lack of high-end sales volume and REOs popping up on every street, fear is quickly becoming the new reality.

3562 Myrtle kitchen

Asking Price: $593,900IrvineRenter

Income Requirement: $148,475

Downpayment Needed: $118,780

Monthly Equity Burn: $4,949

Purchase Price: $830,000

Purchase Date: 2/27/2006

Address: 3562 Myrtle, Irvine, CA 92606

Beds: 4
Baths: 3
Sq. Ft.: 2,300
$/Sq. Ft.: $258
Lot Size: 5,200

Sq. Ft.

Property Type: Single Family Residence
Style: Craftsman
Year Built: 1973
Stories: 2
Area: Walnut
County: Orange
MLS#: S567905
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 1 day

New Listing (24 hours)

Fantastic interior location less than 1 mile to schools, features a
guest suite with full bath downstairs, 3 bedrooms upstairs with master
view deck, double door entry with almost 2,400 square feet – all for
under $600,000! Enjoy community pool, tennis and recreation less than 1
mile away at Harvard Park. Easy access to Jamboree and toll roads and
less than 5 miles to The District shopping and entertainment center.

This property looks updated inside based on the photos. It is one of the less prestigious neighborhoods in Irvine, but the house is large as are the others on this street. It also has a decent sized yard by Irvine standards. It is a solid $425,000-$450,000 property.

This property was purchased on 2/27/2006 for $830,000. The owner used a $663,920 first mortgage, an $82,990 second mortgage, and an $83,090 downpayment.

The owner’s let the property go at a foreclosure auction, and the lender purchased it for $539,597–an amount almost 20% less than the outstanding amount of the first mortgage. This is revealing of where loss mitigation procedures are today. The lender was willing to take a 20% loss at the courthouse steps, and nobody stepped up to buy the property probably because it is still overpriced.

The lender has marked it up hoping to find a knife catcher. If this property sells for its asking price, the total loss on the property will be $271,734 after a 6% commission.

When do you think it will all become clear?
‘Cuz I’m being taken over by The Fear

One more item before you leave. This video was in the comments yesterday. It gives a wonderful explanation of how the Geithner plan is a complex shell game intended to steal taxpayer money. It is not a video of some raving lunatic, but rather a calm explanation of exactly how the process works. I highly recommend watching all 12:28 of it, but if you already understand the basics of the banking problem, you can skip ahead to the 6:30 mark to see how the banks will game the system.

I hope you have enjoyed this week at the Irvine Housing Blog. Come back next week as we
continue chronicling ‘the seventh circle of real estate hell.’ Have a great weekend.

🙂

{book7}

I want to be rich and I want lots of money
I don’t care about clever I don’t care about funny
I want loads of clothes and fuckloads of diamonds
I heard people die while they are trying to find them

I’ll take my clothes off and it will be shameless
‘Cuz everyone knows that’s how you get famous
I’ll look at the sun and I’ll look in the mirror
I’m on the right track yeah I’m on to a winner

[Chorus]
I don’t know what’s right and what’s real anymore
I don’t know how I’m meant to feel anymore
When do you think it will all become clear?
‘Cuz I’m being taken over by The Fear

Life’s about film stars and less about mothers
It’s all about fast cars concussing each other
But it doesn’t matter cause I’m packing plastic
and that’s what makes my life so fucking fantastic

And I am a weapon of massive consumption
and its not my fault it’s how I’m programmed to function
I’ll look at the sun and I’ll look in the mirror
I’m on the right track yeah we’re on to a winner

The Fear — Lily Allen

The Insanity of Yesteryear

We have become so accustomed to inflation that it is difficult to remember a past when prices were more expensive. Welcome to the age of deflation.

Todays featured property is a 35% rollback that will probably drop further.

61 Costero Aisle kitchen

Asking Price: $325,900

Address: 61 Costero Aisle #242, Irvine, CA 92614

{book4}

Insanity — Oingo Boingo

Madness hiding everywhere
Such a curiosity
Here it comes to set us free
Plenty left for you and me
Say hello insanity

After you live in California for a while the insanity of house prices
becomes the reality of life. You accept it, and you learn to live with
it. However, after prices crash there is at least a brief period of time when sanity rules. Houses in California are still expensive by national standards even after a bust, but at least they are affordable relative to local incomes.

Usually when people yearn for the prices of yesteryear, they
remember nickel sodas, or fifty-cent gas (I can remember that). But do you
remember when 2/2 condos went for $500,000? Homeowners certainly do. Many of them are still trying to live in a bubble fantasy world where these prices are still the market. Despite the pockets of denial, most are adjusting to the new reality of lower house prices.

When gas prices went from $4.50 a gallon back to $2.25 a gallon people made the emotional adjustment quickly. Few outside the oil industry benefit from $4.50 gas, so people are eager to accept price declines. When house prices cut in half, the emotional reactions are different. Those living the HELOC lifestyle need ever-increasing prices to fuel their Ponzi Scheme living. Besides the addiction to spending the free money, these people are attached to their illusions of wealth. The collapse of house prices robs them of both their spending power and their fantasies of riches. In such circumstances, lingering memories of past prices and past price increases are clung to with religious fervor.

It was pointed out recently in the comments that past prices paid during the bubble are being used as a selling point by realtors. A $550,000 property is being touted as a bargain because it “previously sold for $1,000,000!!!” Someday, I hope a realtor says this to me; I will comment on the inconceivable ignorance of people during the housing bubble because even $550,000 is overpriced (that should quickly deflate the “bargain” sales tactic).

Today’s featured property went for $500,000 at the peak. It will likely decline in price by more than 50%. When it does, it will not be perceived as a bargain because it will not be one. The debt service payments will be just as high, but the loan terms will be much different as the exotic financing will be replaced by 30-year conventional financing. The conservative loan terms will lower the amounts borrowed and thereby lower resale prices. Most people do not realize how much their perception of prices of financed purchases is dependent upon financing terms.

I have toured this apartment condo complex a couple of times. These are apartments. They are no different than any apartment complex in Irvine; in fact, is is not as nice as most of them. There are few garages; the residents park in unassigned parking or under carports. IMO, this REO is a POS (I couldn’t resist the acronyms).

This particular apartment would probably rent for $1,750 if the Irvine Company ran the complex. A private owner would have to settle for $1,600-$1,650. That puts rental parity at about $264,000. But who wants to live there? To work as a rental, this needs to fall to $180,000 or less which puts it back at late 90s pricing.

61 Costero Aisle kitchen

Asking Price: $325,900IrvineRenter

Income Requirement: $81,475

Downpayment Needed: $65,180

Monthly Equity Burn: $2,715

Purchase Price: $500,000

Purchase Date: 4/25/2006

Address: 61 Costero Aisle #242, Irvine, CA 92614

Beds: 2
Baths: 2
Sq. Ft.: 1,100
$/Sq. Ft.: $296
Lot Size:
Property Type: Condominium
Style: Contemporary
Year Built: 1987
Stories: 2
Floor: 1
Area: Westpark
County: Orange
MLS#: S567986
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 1 day

Interior location, far from the noise of the complex. This property is
a two level, with a bedroom on each floor as well as a loft overlooking
the spacious living room. Therefore there are vaulted ceilings in the
living room with a fireplace. The flooring is laminate on the 1st floor
(kitchen, hall & bath) except carpet in the bedroom. The second
floor has carpet on the stairs, loft and bedroom. The master bathroom
has laminate & sheet vinyl(in the shower room). There is mirrored
wardrobe doors & tile counters. It offers a one car detached garage
and an assigned carport as well. Property is sold ‘As-Is’.

The master bathroom
has laminate & sheet vinyl? Is that a plus?

It offers a one car detached garage
and an assigned carport as well. It must be the luxury unit.

This property was purchased on 4/25/2006 for $500,000. In a rather unusual transaction, this property was financed with a $500,000 Option ARM first mortgage. There was no second mortgage, and no downpayment.

It isn’t surprising that the borrower walked from the debt. The lender paid $471,115 at auction. I imagine the professional flippers in the crowd must have chuckled when they heard that bid.

If it sells for its current asking price–it probably won’t–the total loss to the lender will be $193,654 plus negative amortization and missed payments. The carnage continues…

The video above is true insanity.

{book5}

All around the world now
Like a big bright cherry cloud
Traveling from home to home
Tv sets and telephones
Here it comes just like a storm
Bathe in it and be reborn
Time to let the world know
Welcome madness, say hello
Like a wave we cannot see
Washing over you and me
Hiding here and hiding there
Madness hiding everywhere
Such a curiosity
Here it comes to set us free
Plenty left for you and me
Say hello insanity

Insanity — Oingo Boingo

Real Estate's Lost Decade

Much has been written about the “Lost Decade” in the Japanese economy. In the 90s they faced the same decisions we face today, and we appear to be making the same mistakes.

Today’s featured property is a condo being offered for 55% off its peak purchase price; a new record for Irvine. It is our first 2001 price rollback.

Asking Price: $149,900

Address: 76 Lakepines, Irvine, CA 92620

{book1}

Turning Japanese — The Vapors

I think I’m turning Japanese
I really think so

Japan simultaneously inflated massive financial bubbles in real estate and stocks during the late 1980s. The slow deflation of this bubble and the general economic malaise that impacted Japan during the years that followed became known as the “Lost Decade.” The United States is facing a similar set of circumstances in the aftermath of the Great Housing Bubble. So far, we have been following the same policy actions as the Japanese did. Perhaps our officials have come to believe a Lost Decade is preferable to the next Great Depression.

Today, I want to demonstrate how easy it would be to have a similar result in our own housing market. By lowering interest rates to artificially low levels, the Federal Reserve hopes to stabilize the housing market; however, weaning the housing market off these subsidies will need to be a slow process to prevent real estate prices from taking another nosedive. Gradually increasing interest rates back to long-term norms will result in an erosion of buying power that prevents price appreciation. I want to be clear about the implications of this; we are not looking at a decade to get back to peak prices, we are looking at a decade of stagnate prices at the bottom. Real estate will not reach peak prices until 2032.

The Lost Decade

The chart above shows median home prices in Irvine stabilizing at
$450,000 in 2010 as interest rates bottom at 4.5%. To calculate a median home price, I needed to make assumptions about incomes, allowable debt-to-income ratios and interest rates.

The example above uses the most recent Irvine Median Household Income Data. At the end of 2007, the median household income in Irvine was $91,101. Due to the recession, I have assumed this will also be the median household income at the end of 2009. It might be higher; it might be lower. The historic rate of income growth between 1980 and 2007 is 3.6%. I assume that median household income will again increase at this rate starting in 2010. By 2019, this figure reaches $129,500.

The recent bailout legislation passed by Congress is a combination of workouts and government buy-downs to get borrowers debt-to-income ratios down to 31%. Previous bailouts failed because they only got the borrowers debt-to-income ratios down to 38%. The FHA has long term records showing 31% is as high as this ratio can go without significant increases in defaults. I have assumed debt-to-income ratios will be limited to 31% going forward. Also, I have assumed 30-year fixed-rate conventional financing; exotic financing will not be coming back any time soon.

The Federal Reserve’s policy of “quantitative easing” (aka printing money), is an attempt to drive down long-term interest rates like those for home mortgages. If the FED is successful–and for the short term they probably will be–mortgage interest rates could drop as low as 4.5%. The average interest rate since the early 1970s when the GSEs started keeping records is 8% (7.99% actually). I further assumed interest rates will rise once this economic crisis is over from an unprecedented 4.5% to the long term average of 8%.

I used Microsoft Excels handy solver tool to calculate the interest rate required to keep prices stable while incomes grew. The interest rate chart above shows interest rates going up about 35 basis points a year for 10 years. This puts interest rates back to historic norms of 8%. If interest rates can be eased upward at this controlled rate, and if incomes rise again at their historic 3.6%, prices will stabilize at $450,000 in 2009, and they will stay there for 10 years. After 2019, incomes have caught up with 8% interest rates, and prices begin to appreciate at 3.6% a year to match income growth.

In my opinion, this is a realistic outcome. Eventually interest rates have to go back up. When this crisis is over, the money the FED is printing will cause inflation to return. The Federal Reserve will need to raise interest rates to control inflation. If they do this too quickly, it would take the floor out from under home prices, and despite a high level of general price inflation in the economy, house prices would resume their descent.

When you look at these charts collectively, it suggests the Federal Reserve may allow inflation at levels higher than what is normally desirable for several years after this crisis is over. This will help the Federal Government inflate away much of the debt it is taking on with its stimulus spending, and it will keep a floor under asset prices, particularly housing. Note that asset prices will not be increasing. The consumer price index may increase significantly, but house prices will not budge. Also when you consider the impact of the long-term foreclosure crisis in real estate due to the resetting of adjustable rate mortgages, the FED has incentive to keep rates as low as possible for as long as possible, and house prices have resistance to upward movement.

It is difficult to be bullish with these market conditions. How exactly
would prices go up? Will interest rates stay at 4.5% permanently?

  • People can only increase their bids if lenders give
    them the opportunity. Rising incomes provides the ability to bid prices
    higher, but only at the rate of rising incomes. The long-term average
    is 3.6 %, not exactly rampant appreciation.
  • Another way people can
    raise bids is if they increase their debt-to-income ratio, and lenders
    must allow this in their underwriting. With the history of defaults
    with DTIs over 31%, it doesn’t seem likely that lenders will be
    relaxing this parameter any time soon.
  • Another way buyers can raise
    their bids is through using exotic financing; we all know how that
    turned out last time. I don’t see Option ARMs going to Subprime borrowers without verified income happening again, do you?
  • The final way people can raise their bids is to
    settle for less. Personally, I will not buy a tiny 1/1 condo like today’s
    featured property when I can rent a nice 3/2 SFD.

If my assumptions are correct, and if events unfold as I have outlined, prices will bottom over the next couple of years, and they will stay there for a decade while both incomes and interest rates slowly increase. The “Lost Decade” that the Japanese experienced is not just realistic, it is perhaps a best-case outcome.

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Asking Price: $149,900IrvineRenter

Income Requirement: $37,475

Downpayment Needed: $29,980

Monthly Equity Burn: $1,249

Purchase Price: $322,000

Purchase Date: 7/12/2005

Address: 76 Lakepines, Irvine, CA 92620

Beds: 1
Baths: 1
Sq. Ft.: 932
$/Sq. Ft.: $161
Lot Size: 763

Sq. Ft.

Property Type: Condominium
Style: Townhouse
Year Built: 1977
Stories: 2
Floor: 1
View: Creek/Stream
Area: Northwood
County: Orange
MLS#: P658271
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 173 days

Unsold in 90+ days

Beautiful 1 Bdrm Loft Townhome Over-Looking Bubbling Brook. Stand Alone
Fireplace in the Living Room; Breakfast Bar and Separate Dining Area.
Assigned Carport Parking. Walk-In Master Bdroom Closet. Spacious Back
Patio. Full-Size Washer/Dryer Hookups.

Check out the listing price history:

Date Event Price
Mar 19, 2009 Price Changed $149,900
Feb 01, 2009 Price Changed $215,000
Nov 07, 2008 Price Changed $229,900
Sep 29, 2008 Listed $265,000
Jul 12, 2005 Sold $332,000
May 23, 2001 Sold $163,000
Dec 03, 1996 Sold $89,000
Sep 14, 1989 Sold $116,000

This property was purchased for $332,000 on 7/12/2005. This is a full year before the peak, so this property might have appraised for around $360,000 in the summer of 2006. The owner used a $265,600 first mortgage, a $66,400 second mortgage, and a $0 downpayment.

This property is listed at 55% off its 2005 purchase price, and it is below its 2001 sales price.

If this property sells for its asking price, and if a 6% commission is paid, the total loss to the lender will be $191,094.

Rollback

Our housing market is starting to look like a Wal-Mart.

{book2}

I’ve got your picture of me and you
You wrote “I love you” I wrote “me too”
I sit there staring and there’s nothing else to do
Oh it’s in color Your hair is brown
Your eyes are hazel And soft as clouds
I often kiss you when there’s no one else around

I’ve got your picture, I’ve got your picture
I’d like a million of you all round my cell
I want a doctor to take your picture
So I can look at you from inside as well
You’ve got me turning up and turning down
And turning in and turning ’round

I’m turning Japanese
I think I’m turning Japanese
I really think so
Turning Japanese
I think I’m turning Japanese
I really think so
I’m turning Japanese
I think I’m turning Japanese
I really think so
Turning Japanese
I think I’m turning Japanese
I really think so

Turning Japanese — The Vapors

A 3/2 Under $300,000

I wasn’t sure how to title this post. It could have been “Why You Don’t Want to Catch a Falling Knife” or “10% Off a 2003 Price.” There are many stories to tell.

Today’s property is below its 2003 purchase price hovering at 2002 price levels.

Asking Price: $299,900

Address: 8 Eastmont #46, Irvine, CA 92604

We are scheduled to have another IHB Block Party on Monday, March 9, 2009, at J.T. Schmids at the District. Everyone is invited.

Knife Fight — Lemon Demon

But wait, are we not civilized gentlemen here?
I challenge you to a battle of knifes!

Knife Catcher Award

If this property looks familiar, it is because I have profiled it before in the post Option ARM Hell. In that post from July of 2008, this property was a short sale asking $389,900. How would you have liked to have been the knife catcher that paid that much? If you would have, you would be $90,000 underwater right now. My equity burn calculation said this property would only lose $3,241 a month in value. The asking price has declined $90,000 in 9 months for an equity burn of nearly $10,000 a month.

Price declines like this on low-end properties are nearing their conclusion. Price declines like this on mid- to high-end properties are yet to come. All those high end short sales I have been profiling lately will be REOs sporting 20%-30% reductions 9 months from now.

Asking Price: $299,900IrvineRenter

Income Requirement: $75,000

Downpayment Needed: $60,000

Monthly Equity Burn: $2,500

Purchase Price: $443,000

Purchase Date: 4/26/2006

Address: 8 Eastmont #46, Irvine, CA 92604

REMODELED 3 BEDROOM , 2 BATH CONDO, BANK OWNED, in WOODBRIDGE WITH GRANITE COUNTERS AND UPGRADED FLOORING.

That description is ALL CAPS except the word “in.” Why?

Check out this listing and sales price history. The asking price is 10% below its 2003 purchase price. I think we could call it 2002 prices.

Feb 27, 2009 Listed $299,900
Apr 26, 2006 Sold $443,000
Oct 25, 2005 Sold $425,000
Dec 02, 2003 Sold $337,000

This property is really causing some pain to a young family (I think). This property was purchased on 5/19/2006 for $443,000. The owners used a $354,400 Option ARM with a 1% teaser rate for a first mortgage, and a $88,600 downpayment. Looking at this place, it doesn’t seem like a move-up where this $88,600 was equity from a previous sale. I am guessing this was either savings or a gift from relatives. In either case, it is gone now.

If this property sells for its asking price, and if a 6% commission is paid, the total loss on the property will be $161,094. The owners are covering half, and the lenders are eating the rest. Neither party is going to be happy about it, but I feel worse for the borrower. Not just did they lose their substantial downpayment, they have ruined their credit: very sad.

{book1}

I tire of your mind games.
I’m sick of playing Don’t Wake Daddy.
Good sir, no more Rock, Paper, Scissors for me.
But wait, are we not civilized gentlemen here?
I challenge you to a battle of knifes!

KNIFE FIGHT,
You’re gonna fight for your life!
KNIFE FIGHT,
You’re gonna fight with a knife!
KNIFE FIGHT,
A really really really sharp knife!
YEAH, KNIFE FIGHT!

I’m a crazy (crazy) son of a *****!
I’ma cut you! (Cut you!)
Swish swish!
In a knife fight! (Knife fight.)
Knife fight! (Knife fight.)
Knife fight! KNIFE FIGHT!

KNIFE!
FIGHT!
CUT!
STAB!
KNIFE!
OW!
POKE!
KNIFE!

Knife Fight — Lemon Demon