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Closed Sales from 1/12/2012 to 1/18/2012

Here are the closed sales in Irvine over the last week (1/12/2012 – 1/18/2012). See anything interesting? Did you visit any of these homes?

Date Sold Address Zip Tract Sold Price Beds SqFt
Airport Area
1/17/12 2410 Watermarke Pl 92612 Watermarke $210,000 1 635
El Camino Real
1/17/12 14841 Doheny Cir 92604 Willows $371,000 3 1112
Northwood
1/12/12 41 Appomattox 92620 Fieldstone Classics $517,500 3 1504
1/13/12 84 Remington 92620 Horizon $326,000 3 1224
1/13/12 7 Bellezza 92620 Woodside $895,000 4 2951
1/18/12 174 Pineview 92620 Lakes, The $289,900 2 1202
Orangetree
1/12/12 273 Tarocco 92618 Unknown $249,000 2 995
1/13/12 267 Orange Blossom 92618 Lake Condos $205,000 2 880
1/13/12 146 Orange Blossom 92618 Lake Condos $160,000 1 739
Quail Hill
1/12/12 22 Nightshade 92603 Casalon $430,000 3 1600
1/12/12 37 Nightshade 92603 Casalon $475,000 3 1553
1/17/12 31 Windchime 92603 Sage $510,000 3 1500
Rancho San Joaquin
1/14/12 2 Solana 92612 RSJ Townhomes $345,000 2 1404
Turtle Ridge
1/12/12 109 Danbrook 92603 Ashton Green $445,000 2 1398
1/12/12 203 Danbrook 92603 Ashton Green $515,000 3 1324
1/17/12 116 Roadrunner 92603 Whispering Glen $548,000 3 1610
Turtle Rock
1/12/12 43 Copper Crk 92603 Shady Canyon Custom $2,670,000 5 7500
1/13/12 5971 Sierra Bravo Rd 92603 Broadmoor $730,000 3 1580
1/13/12 27 Vernal Spring 92603 Shady Canyon Sycamore $2,575,000 4 4820
Walnut
1/12/12 3972 Capri Ave 92606 Colony $580,000 4 1868
Westpark
1/13/12 2202 Ladrillo Aisle 92606 Brio $377,500 2 1219
Woodbridge
1/18/12 71 Goldenrod 92614 Stonegate $422,000 3 1370

43 Copper Creek and 27 Vernal Springs are actually in Shady Canyon. For such a difference in size, it is interesting that the price is so similar. Any ideas why that may be the case?

The house on Doheny seems to be a low price for a detached SFR (that what it seems to be to me). The listing shows that it definitely needed some work. It is on a 6,000 square foot lot though.

Open House – 18711 Paseo Picasso in Turtle Rock

It’s difficult to critique a pre-owned house, because for so many years it wasn’t just a house, it was a home to a family. It’s almost like shell-shock reviewing an older house since up until now I’ve been focused on new developments. I often think well-loved properties have more charm and individuality and I’d say that I’m personally inclined to purchase an older residence, rather than a cookie cutter home. 18711 Paseo Picasso was an eye opener for me.

Here’s the 411 on 18711 Paseo Picasso:

Purchase price: $675,000

Bedrooms: 3

Bathrooms: 1.75

Square footage: 1710 Sq. Ft.

$/Sq. Ft.: $395

Property Type: SFR

Year built: 1973

Community: Turtle Rock

The HOA dues are $150 per month and there are no Mello Roos.

Brochure

I’m going to come right out and say it. The price is too high for the property. The first thing the real estate agent informed me was that the price was negotiable, which tells me that I’m right. Her selling angle was the location. If I had children I’d consider this neighborhood. It’s perfect for kids. The house is literally just down the street from University High School and Turtle Rock Elementary. There is also a park and community pool around the corner. My initial impression about the neighborhood was that it was old. The houses have the 1970s and 1980s over painted exterior wooden features. I feel like I’d get splinters if I touched the wooden posts. Don’t get me wrong—they’re nice houses, but you can tell they’re forty years old. Here are some of my initial observations:

Pros:

Wood floors

Upgraded countertops in the kitchen and bathroom

Upgraded cabinetry in the kitchen

Travertine floors in the bathrooms

Fireplace

Cons:

Interior wooden posts

Under-developed backyard

Popcorn ceilings

Outdated bathrooms

Low ceilings

Small kitchen

The first thing I noticed walking in the door is how open the living room area is. The high ceiling makes the space feel comforting.

However, I felt like the ugly wooden posts on the interior upset the balance. The wood posts support an overhang that shelters the hallway from the living room, creating a rafter feel.

I didn’t like this at all. I’d expect to find wooden posts on the exterior of the house, but never the interior. I also thought the rafter was wasted space. I left myself wondering how I’d go about fixing that—and I realized that it would translate into dollar signs. There’s a wet bar in the hallway, which is an extra bonus. The countertops have been upgraded, but the cabinetry looks dated.

The homeowners have extended the dining area for extra space. Essentially they created a very tiny nook, and I’m not sure what I’d do with it. I could fit a couple of chairs in the space, but I really didn’t see the benefit. Maybe I’m not thinking outside the box, but the space wasn’t usable in my opinion. Maybe you could put an Ikea desk and chair in there for a small office feature, but I’d feel mighty cramped.

The kitchen was a lot smaller than I expected.

The homeowners spent money upgrading the backsplash, cabinetry, tile and countertops but it wasn’t my decorating style. I still felt like it had a 1980s look to it. I couldn’t get past the fact that the refrigerator had to be placed around the corner because the kitchen was too small to accommodate it. The refrigerator blocks the panty—albeit you can still access the pantry, but it destroyed the flow for me. It’s a functional kitchen, but I couldn’t see myself preparing Thanksgiving dinner in it. I did like that the kitchen featured access to the backyard, which from my understanding is an addition the owners chose to add.

The master bedroom isn’t overly large, but there’s enough space. The closet doors are double sliding mirrors. I’d probably replace the track and invest in a closet organizer. There’s access to the backyard from the master bedroom. The glass door is the only window in the space, and I once again felt caged in.

The remaining two bedrooms are great for kids or even an office. I wasn’t disappointed in the space. It’s the same size room I grew up in. The closets are definitely larger than any of the newly developed houses I’ve previously toured! Off one of the bedrooms was the atrium, which has fallen by the wayside. It’s literally a small concrete square that the homeowners have never done anything with. The real estate agent suggested that I could close off the space, put a roof over it and make it into a den. Indeed this is what the other homeowners in the area have chosen to do with this space. All I could think of was dollar signs. Plus, my little tiny voice inside me said to leave it open and put a fountain or small herb garden out there. If you want to make the investment, you could do a lot with the space and sometimes it’s nice to put the money into something you could make your own.

I wasn’t impressed with the bathrooms. They need a lot of work, and it’s the first space I’d demolish. The master bathroom has the upgraded countertop and travertine floors, but the vanity cabinets need some updating. It looks like it’s the original 1970s stain. The toilet is in a separate room, but you’ll have to rip it out and I’d say the shower and tub need replacing. I noticed that the ceilings seemed rather low, which made me feel like I was in a cave. There’s a small square skylight, but that feature reminded me of its age.

The second bathroom is very small, and the shower doors have this weird frosted pattern. It definitely has to go.

The garage only accommodates one car, but the driveway features a carport. I’m not quite sure how I feel about it. I’d rather have a two car garage. I think the exterior of the house looks more attractive when both cars are in the garage. The full size washer and dryer are located in the garage. There’s plenty of storage in the above rafters.

The backyard is a wrap around and you’ll need to put some time and money planting bushes or flowers in the planters. If you make the effort, the backyard could be a great place to have some friends over for a barbeque, but you’re a long way from getting to that point.

I don’t think this house is bad. I think it needs work, and once you invest the time and money it could turn into something very comfortable. I personally don’t care for houses that have wooden exteriors and this was a big turn off for me. I don’t like wooden terrace carport. The exterior seemed very bland, and I don’t know if there’s much I could do about making improvements. So, I’m going to take a pass on this house. If you get this house at a fair price, meaning lower than $675K, and you have a remodeling budget, you might like it. Turtle Rock is a great place to be in Irvine. From what I observed, the neighborhood seemed friendly and I could be very happy here. With this house, your budget and imagination are the determining factors.

Closed Sales from 1/5/2012 to 1/11/2012

Based on feedback from last week, it sounded like this was a helpful post so I'll continue. The sales listed here are those that have closed in the 7 days between 1/5/2012 and 1/11/2012.

Date Sold Address ZipCode Tract Sold Price Beds SqFt
Airport Area
1/9/12 3030 Scholarship 92612 3000 The Plaza $905,000 2 1925
1/10/12 2223 Scholarship 92612 Avenue One $330,000 2 1037
El Camino Real
1/11/12 4391 Vale St 92604 Greentree $540,000 3 1515
Northpark
1/5/12 2 Healdsbury 92602 Manchester $1,190,000 4 3400
1/9/12 18 Leucadia 92602 Monticello $375,000 2 1400
Northwood
1/5/12 9 Trailwood 92620 Cristal $1,139,999 5 3582
1/6/12 939 Somerville 92620 Northwood Villas $527,500 3 1610
1/7/12 28 Grape Arbor 92620 Camellia $775,000 4 2315
Oak Creek
1/5/12 9 Hawk 92618 Ashford Place $850,000 4 2750
Orangetree
1/10/12 2312 Apricot Dr 92618 Terrace $228,500 2 910
Portola Springs
1/9/12 59 Bell Chime 92618 Decada $485,500 3 1545
Quail Hill
1/6/12 32 Paperwhite 92603 Solstice $540,000 3 1509
Rancho San Joaquin
1/10/12 1 Solana #22 92612 $410,199 3 886
University Park
1/5/12 30 Rockrose Way 92612 $420,000 4 2130
Westpark
1/6/12 4 Lorenzo 92614 Sorrento $845,000 4 2580
Woodbridge
1/11/12 109 Fallingstar 92614 Laurels $210,000 1 860
1/11/12 64 Eagle Pt 92604 $189,000 2 954
Woodbury
1/5/12 75 Sanctuary 92620 Cachette $470,000 3 1580
1/10/12 28 Vintage 92620 Lombard Court $420,000 2 1526

Do any of these sales look interesting? Were you considering any of these properties?

One sale that stood out to me is 75 Sanctuary. I am really surprised by the closing price of $470k. When it came onto the market, it was listed at $500k as a Short Sale and went Pending pretty immediately. At that price, I would have expected multiple offers and for it to be bid up. $470k is the lowest I've seen for a Cachette Plan 1.

Closed Sales from 12/29/2011 to 1/4/2012

Today, I'd like to post a list of all closed sales in Irvine from 12/29/2011 to 1/4/2012. As a kid, I remember reading the newspaper to see what homes in town sold recently – yes, I've been interested in RE for far too long. Over the past few years, I've seen some sites that have posted weekly sales and I think I recall Erika Chavez's blog at the OC Register also doing so a while back. When reading these lists of addresses and prices of sold homes, I'm always wondering what neighborhood the home belongs to or how many bedrooms it has or how many square feet it has. All the data is out there but it is a challenge presenting it in a helpful way. I have some grand ideas on how I want to address that in the future.

But for now, I've compiled the list with a few columns I find helpful. The list is ordered by Area (MLS term that kinda sorta is like a village but not really) and then by the Date Sold. I've tried to clean up some data such as incorrect tract or area names. Redfin offers an awesome feature where they let you view the listing information for homes that have sold – most other sites do not provide this. So, I've added Redfin links to the sold properties so you can easily get even more detailed data on one of these sold homes. Instead of reading 123 Main St sold for $450,000 on 12/12/2011, you'll get a few columns of more info and a link to the actual listing on Redfin. Hope you think it is helpful – it sure was tedious! 😉

Date Sold Address Zip Code Tract Sold Price Beds SqFt
Airport Area
1/3/12 1420 Scholarship 92612 Avenue One $324,900 2 1213
1/3/12 3224 Watermarke 92612 Watermarke $190,000 1 635
Northwood
12/29/11 216 Timberwood 92620 Collage $393,000 2 1270
12/29/11 28 Streamwood 92620 Irvine Springs $149,000 1 639
12/29/11 3 Abeto 92620 OTHR $695,000 5 2864
12/30/11 15 E Delamesa 92620 Park Paseo $665,000 4 2088
12/30/11 5 Clear Crk 92620 Cristal $1,600,000 6 4250
1/3/12 8 Field 92620 Shadow Run $615,000 4 1891
1/3/12 10 Mahogany Dr 92620 Mahogany $1,430,000 5 4250
Orangetree
12/29/11 100 Orchard 92618 Patio Homes $323,000 2 900
12/29/11 40 Orange Blossom 92618 Lake Condos $223,500 2 956
12/29/11 124 Tangerine 92618 Patio Homes $411,000 3 1445
Portola Springs
1/2/12 153 Pathway 92618 Primrose $549,990 3 1873
1/2/12 175 Pathway 92618 Primrose $570,000 4 2056
Quail Hill
1/4/12 116 Capeberry 92603 Chantilly $1,178,750 4 3100
Turtle Ridge
12/29/11 22 Bower Tree 92603 Arborel $651,500 3 1665
12/29/11 71 Grandview 92603 La Cima $3,995,000 5 6070
12/30/11 29 Garden Terrace 92603 Botanica $1,875,000 4 3450
Turtle Rock
12/29/11 22 Morning Glory 92603 Ridge Townhomes $835,000 2 2021
12/30/11 5 Del Rey 92612 Pointe – Turtle Rock $617,000 2 1830
1/3/12 59 N Canyon Rdg 92603 Glen Garden Homes $520,000 3 1628
University Park
12/30/11 6 Camphor 92612 Terrace $400,000 3 1400
1/3/12 17 Eucalyptus 92612 Terrace $385,000 2 1184
1/4/12 21 Eucalyptus 92612 Terrace $550,000 3 1538
West Irvine
12/29/11 44 Copper Leaf 92602 Custom $575,000 4 1900
Westpark
12/29/11 117 Alberti Aisle 92614 Tiempo $235,000 1 830
12/29/11 164 Alicante Aisle 92614 Tiempo $300,000 2 1032
12/31/11 15 Del Carlo 92606 Positano $629,900 3 1500
1/3/12 106 Alicante Aisle 92614 Tiempo $252,000 1 830
Woodbridge
12/29/11 48 Silkberry 92614 Briarglen $555,000 3 1587
12/30/11 4 Claret 92614 Chateaux $299,000 2 1146
1/4/12 43 Havenwood 92614 Parkview $399,000 3 1399
Woodbury
12/29/11 75 Nature 92620 Four Quartets $480,000 3 1706
12/29/11 61 City Stroll 92620 Esplanade $550,000 3 2074
12/29/11 86 Hedge Bloom 92618 Ivy at Woodbury East $380,000 2 1180
12/30/11 84 Sarabande 92620 Garland Park $434,125 2 1357

Several of these are new homes – any ideas which?

Are you familiar with any of these homes or neighborhoods? OC Fliptrack ring a bell?

How much have they dropped from the peak?

Would you like to see a Buy versus Rent post on one of these properties?

Is this type of post helpful or interesting? Comment away…

Housing price bottom delayed to at least 2013

The following headlines suggest the market will not bottom in 2012:

I am not the only market observer who has come to this conclusion.

Home Address … 90 LEHIGH AISLE #58 Irvine, CA 92612

Asking Price ……. $449,000

Real estate recovery in limbo until 2013, experts say

By Martha C. White — December 23, 2011

This year was supposed to be the bottom for the housing market and 2012 was supposed to mark the turnaround.

Really? Is that on the authority of realtors who call the bottom every year? Nobody with any credibility was calling the bottom in 2012, and anyone who did no longer has any credibility.

In reality, even the improvements sound like bad news, and some forecasters are saying we'll have another year of gloom before the clouds break.

Yes, the forecasters who have a clue what's really going on are looking at the buildup of inventory, weak sales, increasing delinquencies and forecasting continued falling prices.

“It's unlikely prices will rise next year in most markets,” said Jed Kolko, chief economist at real estate information site Trulia. “By that measure most local markets will not recover next year, but prices are only one measure of how the housing market is doing.”

While it's true that price recovery is only one measure of the health of the housing market, it is the only one most loan owners care about. Sales volumes will likely increase in 2012, but that is going to come from investors buying low-priced houses.

American home values are likely to shed $681 billion this year, according to Zillow. That's better than the $1.1 trillion lost in 2010, but hardly worth breaking out the bubbly.

In a nutshell, that's the problem with the housing market today. Even the good news is relative, and a true recovery is still at least a few quarters away.

[T]he unabsorbed pool of housing supply, dragging levels of consumer confidence, high unemployment and negative equity will continue to put downward pressure on the housing market, pushing our expectation for a potential recovery into late 2012 or early 2013,” Stan Humphries, chief economist at real estate research company Zillow Inc., said in a statement.

Data company CoreLogic estimates there is a “shadow inventory” of 1.6 million homes, which is the biggest drag on prices.

Basically, supply of motivated sellers is going to overwhelm the weakened demand. No matter how you describe it, aggressive supply meeting weak demand results in lower prices.

“Foreclosures lead to very motivated sellers, which will have a destabilizing effect on prices,” said Nicolas Retsinas, professor of real estate at Harvard Business School. The sluggish pace of foreclosures — hampered by the robo-signing scandal, ongoing investigations and litigation — have stalled the movement of those homes back into the market.

None of the market props or processing delays have helped the market bottom. In fact, these circumstances have done nothing other than delay the bottom.

Data on the number of sales is more promising.

In November, sales of single-family homes hit a seven-month high. Sales rose 1.6 percent for the month, and 9.8 percent over the past 12 months.

But these figures are climbing back from abysmal depths; the National Association of Realtors thjs week lowered its figures on the number of homes sold between 2007 and 2010 by nearly 3 million, down to 17.7 million.

The silver lining in the NAr revisions is that sales comparisons now look better. Volume is improving which is to be expected with lower prices. Further increases in sales volumes are required to clear out the supply.

“With a highly leveraged housing bust, you haven't seen that increase in residential investment in spite of low interest rates,” said Ted Gayer, a senior fellow at Brookings Institution.

Slack demand for existing homes also means fewer buyers for new homes. Home building has traditionally been the tow truck that pulls the economy out of the mud, but with so many empty houses and so few people moving into them, that's not the case this time around.

With an entire industry sitting on the sidelines, our economy continues to suffer. Employment in homebuilding and related industries is not improving much.

“It's not a demand problem,” Gayer said. “When you have such a huge excess supply it doesn't really get at the problem.”

Even though interest rates are at record lows, a tight credit market is keeping people who do want to buy on the sidelines, said Retsinas. Lower rates of household formation — fewer immigrants and more adult children still living with their parents — also quash demand.

The tight credit meme is consistently reported incorrectly. While it's true that people who want to buy can't, it's only the people who want to buy who aren't qualified that are being denied. They should be denied credit. They won't pay it back. We have credit standards to establish who will repay loans, not to see who wants a home.

Despite these headwinds, there are glimmers of hope.

Have you noticed that hope only comes in glimmers? The light at the end of the tunnel is not very clear or bright.

Kolko said an uptick in multifamily construction and remodeling, while not as strong as the traditional home building engine, will still provide construction-sector jobs in the near term. Longer term, more multifamily dwellings on the market will alleviate the increase in rents happening now, potentially giving people more breathing room to save for a home purchase in the future.

I can assure you, the people developing multifamily right now are not anticipating a weakening in rents. Further, weakening rents will keep more buyers on the sidelines because it impacts rental parity. Without the pressure of increasing rent, many potential buyers will simply wait and continue to rent.

And a few parts of the country might catch a break next year. Kolko said California's Silicon Valley, along with much of Texas and New England, are starting to recover due to their employment levels or because the housing bubble wasn't as pronounced there in the first place. The rest of us will just have to hope for better luck in '13.

The housing bubble was not as pronounced in California's Silicon Valley? LOL! Failure to deflate is not a sign that prices didn't bubble.

The housing market will likely not bottom in 2012. Fall 2012 or the winter of 2013 perhaps, but the spring rally of 2012 — if we get one — will not mark the bottom of the housing bust.

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This property is available for sale via the MLS.

Please contact Shevy Akason, #01836707

949.769.1599

sales@idealhomebrokers.com

Home Address … 90 LEHIGH AISLE #58 Irvine, CA 92612

Asking Price ……. $449,000

Beds: 2

Baths: 2

Sq. Ft.: 1682

$267/SF

Property Type: Residential, Condominium

Style: Two Level, Contemporary

View: Tree Top

Year Built: 1988

Community: University Town Center

County: Orange

MLS#: S653494

Source: CRMLS

On Redfin: 270 days

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If you favor contemporary design, are creative & imaginative, then you will fall in love with the open, airy atmosphere that this modern 2BR/2BA + loft/office/guest/game room provides. You will appreciate the modern, angular lines in this centrally located townhome & will enjoy highlighting your artwork, sculptures & furnishings within this unique space. The living, dining, & kichen areas are open and can accomodate both intimate & large gatherings. The loft skylights have retractable shades to provide as much sunlight & /or shade as the occasion calls for(as a guest room or game room). The oversized master bedroom w/ large picture windows views out to treetops & greenery below bringing the outside in. The spacious junior bedroom can accomodate a queensize bed if needed. There are doors out to a large covered balcony from both the living & secondary bedroom areas for al fresco dining or a quiet moment after a day's work. Walk to Trader Joe's, the Farmer's Market, the Cinema, shops & eateries

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Proprietary commentary and analysis

Asking Price ……. $449,000

Purchase Price … $224,000

Purchase Date …. 7/22/1994

Net Gain (Loss) ………. $198,060

Percent Change ………. 88.4%

Annual Appreciation … 3.9%

Cost of Home Ownership

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$449,000 ………. Asking Price

$15,715 ………. 3.5% Down FHA Financing

4.02% …………… Mortgage Interest Rate

$433,285 ………. 30-Year Mortgage

$135,001 ………. Income Requirement

$2,074 ………. Monthly Mortgage Payment

$389 ………. Property Tax (@1.04%)

$0 ………. Special Taxes and Levies (Mello Roos)

$94 ………. Homeowners Insurance (@ 0.25%)

$498 ………. Private Mortgage Insurance

$433 ………. Homeowners Association Fees

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$3,488 ………. Monthly Cash Outlays

-$322 ………. Tax Savings (% of Interest and Property Tax)

-$622 ………. Equity Hidden in Payment (Amortization)

$22 ………. Lost Income to Down Payment (net of taxes)

$76 ………. Maintenance and Replacement Reserves

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$2,641 ………. Monthly Cost of Ownership

Cash Acquisition Demands

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$4,490 ………. Furnishing and Move In @1%

$4,490 ………. Closing Costs @1%

$4,333 ………. Interest Points

$15,715 ………. Down Payment

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$29,028 ………. Total Cash Costs

$40,400 ………… Emergency Cash Reserves

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$69,428 ………. Total Savings Needed

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Personal writing

I have written my last real estate post for the Irvine Housing Blog. My last four posts will not focus on real estate. If reading about my feelings of community and experiences growing up interests you, please stop by over the next four days. If not, it was a pleasure serving you over the last five years. I hope to see you on my new blog the OC Housing News.