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The Sharpsburg Bloodbath – Update #2

10 Sharpsburg actually sold at the auction on 7-18-2007 for $670,114.35 a full penny over the opening bid amount. At $270 a sqft that puts an Irvine home below the $300 mark. Ouch!

(A special thanks to graphix for the update)

President Abraham Lincoln and Gen. George B. McClellan in the general’s tent
Sharpsburg, Maryland|Antietam, Maryland, October 3, 1862

(Sorry, no property photos are available.)

Old Asking Price: $850,000

New Asking Price: $795,000

Purchase Price: $799,000
Purchase Date: 6/27/2005

Address: 10 Sharpsburg, Irvine, CA 92620

Beds: 4IrvineRenter
Baths: 2.5
Sq. Ft.*: 2,710
Lot Sq. Ft.*: 5,300
Year Built: 1979
Stories: 2
Type: Single Family Residence
Neighborhood: Northwood
$/Sq. Ft.*: $314
MLS: S481159
Status: Active on market
On Redfin: 15 days

I learn something new with each of these posts. Today I learned the civil war battle most of us know as Antietam, the bloodiest single day in our nation’s military history, was known in the South as the Battle of Sharpsburg. Is our flipper on Sharpsburg due for a bloodletting? Let’s see.

From Redfin: “This home shows beautifully. NOW REDUCED TO THE RIDICULOUS!!!! Very light and bright with vaulted ceilings, french doors, lots of added can lights through out. Remodeled baths include new fixtures and granite counters. Great floorplan with master bedroom down, 3 bedrooms up AND pool table sized bonus room too!! Freshly painted and newer berber carpet and tile floors through out. Great cul de sac location W/ 2 car garage AND covered parking for 3rd car. BANK READY FOR OFFERS!!!!”

Another realtor who uses too many exclamation points… and the words “light and bright”…

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If this house sells for asking price and assuming a 6% commission, our seller will net exactly $0, nada, nothing. Almost two years of ownership with no appreciation. Doesn’t leave them with much room to negotiate on the price, does it? I can just imagine the negotiations: you would be haggling over how much this guy was going to lose. It might actually be entertaining if you are in to inflicting pain. Are you feeling the schadenfreude?

Who was saying they wouldn’t just “give it away?”

**** UPDATE #1 ****

Now the seller is looking at a $55,000 loss. Also, it appears the short sale has been cleared through the bank.

Sumac Attac

Guess what? I found another 100% financing deal where the borrower walked. What a surprise? The bulls must have a hard time ignoring the obvious with these 100% financing deals. When the going gets tough, the tough get… out. With the huge number of these deals during 2004-2006, how many of these properties will need to be absorbed by the market? How long will it take? If I were bullish, I wouldn’t be holding my breath.

Sumac Front

Asking Price: $759,900IrvineRenter

Purchase Price: $663,147

Purchase Date: 5/22/2007

Address: 14911 Sumac Ave., Irvine, CA 92606

Pre-foreclosure data:

Purchase Date: 10/28/2005

Sale Price — $795,000

1st Loan — $636,000

2nd Mtg. — $159,000

Rollback

Beds: 4

Baths: 2.5

Sq. Ft.: 2,350

$/Sq. Ft.: $323

Lot Size: 5,000 sq. ft.

Year Built: 1972

Stories: 2

Type: Single Family Residence

County: Orange

Neighborhood: Walnut

MLS#: U7002468

Status: Active

On Redfin: 35 days

From Redfin, “THIS IS WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR. A HUGE FAMILY HOME IN ONE OF T HE MOST SOUGHT AFTER CITIES IN ORANGE COUNTY! THIS IS THE CITY OF IRVINE, WITH THE GREAT SCHOOLS, THE GREAT PARKS, AND SO MUCH MORE. THIS IS A TWO STORY WITH FOUR BEDROOMS AND TWO AND ONE HALF BATHS. .. ASSOCIATION PARKS. WALK TO SCHOOL AND SO MUCH MORE. HOME IS BEING SOLD ‘AS-IS’ WITHOUT WARRANTY. “

THE ALL CAP ATTACK!!!

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If the bank can manage to get their asking price, and if they only pay a 2% commission (banks are cheap), they will lose $50,298. A few more like this, and they will stop making 100% loans to people with poor credit — Oh wait, that has already happened. A few more like this, and they will stop making 100% loans entirely…

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Choate Knife-Catcher ** Update #1 **

Huge price reduction from $935,000 to $799,950! Short sale? Bank repo? Who cares? That is a huge price drop. At the current price, the house is selling for $254.77 per square foot. That is a new low in Irvine as far as I know.
Choate Kitchen

Old Asking Price: $935,000

New Asking Price: $799,950IrvineRenter

Purchase Price: $925,000

Purchase Date: 11/03/2006

Address: 32 Choate, Irvine, CA 92620

Beds: 5
Baths: 3
Sq. Ft.: 3,140
Lot Sq. Ft.: 5,188Knife Catcher Award
Year Built: 1978
Stories: 2
Type: Single Family Residence
County: Orange
Neighborhood: Northwood
$/Sq. Ft.: $298
MLS#: F1710198
Status: Active on market
On Redfin: 27 days

Sale Price $925,000
1st Loan $740,000
2nd Mtg. $185,000
100% Financing
Lender Fremont Invs / Ln

From Redfin, “5+3+ Bonus Room, Master w/ retreat; fireplace; walk-in closet; huge bath Tiled roof Fireplace in family room Wood flooring in family room Tile floor in living room, formal dining & kitchen Landscaped backyard w/ jacuzzi.”

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This must have seemed like a no-brainer: A Northwood house for less than $300/SF. As a flipper, how could you go wrong?

First, you could do nothing to improve the property and rely on your low purchase price to make your money. Second, you could take the marketing pictures with your cell phone camera so your property can look like as undesirable as possible. And third, you could completely ignore the market collapsing around you, drink some kool-aid, and believe the next selling season will bring you riches.

But why not? It is 100% financing, and you can always make the bank eat your losses, right?

Chadwacky

This is a strange time in our real estate market. Easy credit money is still being made available to high-income borrowers with good credit scores. As a result, what few transactions are occurring in the market are happening at the upper price points. This also explains why the median does not drop much when we all know prices of individual homes are declining.

This peculiar set of circumstances puts sellers in an awkward position: there are not enough buyers to absorb the inventory, but the few buyers who are out there are foolish enough to pay ridiculous prices. As a seller, if you hold out for your price, you might just get it, albeit like hitting the lottery. Everyone is begging and praying for the greater fool to come along.

Chadwick FrontChadwick Kitchen

Asking Price: $950,000IrvineRenter

Purchase Price: $394,500

Purchase Date: 12/4/2000

Address: 28 Chadwick, Irvine, CA 92618

Beds: 5

Baths: 3.5

Sq. Ft.: 2,600

$/Sq. Ft.: $365

Lot Size: –

Year Built: 2000

Stories: 3

Type: Single Family Residence

County: Orange

Neighborhood: Oak Creek

MLS#: P531417

Status: Active

On Redfin: 332 days

Unsold in 90+ days

From Redfin, “* Spectacular Home in Cul-de-Sac Location * Private Gated Community * 5 BR 3.5 Baths (one 3rd level suite) * Very Desirable Floor Plan w Separate Family RM Adjacent to Open Kitchen w Center Island, Granite Countertop & Full Back Splash * Fireplace in Cozy Family RM * Upgraded Expensive Tile, Wood Floor & Berber Carpert * Plantation Wood Shutters * Upgraded Ceiling Fan * Beautiful Professional Landscaping * X’lnt Assoc. Amenities w low Assoc. Dues * Award Wining Schools * Don’t Miss this out”

The realtor forgot to mention the relaxing drone of freeway noise…

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This listing is coming up on its birthday. At first glance this doesn’t seem like a WTF price, but 332 days on the market says otherwise.

Sutton Front Sutton Kitchen

Asking Price: $1,100,000IrvineRenter

Purchase Price: $462,000

Purchase Date: 10/27/2000

Address: 20 E Sutton, Irvine, CA 92618

Beds: 4

Baths: 2.5

Sq. Ft.: 2,700

$/Sq. Ft.: $407

Lot Size: 4,200 sq. ft.

Year Built: 2001

Stories: 2

Type: Single Family Residence

County: Orange

Neighborhood: Oak Creek

MLS#: S494519

Status: Active

On Redfin: 11 days

From Redfin, “Looks Just Like a Model Home! 4 Bedrooms + Large Office on Corner Lot. Designed to Perfection with Pottery Barn Style Wainscotting, Crown Molding, Beautiful Wood Floors, Plantation Wood Shutters, Beautiful Custom Built-ins, Designer Carpet & Paint. Large Gourmet Kitchen w/ upgraded appliances, wine refrigerator. Over $100,000 in Custom Upgrades. Professionally Landscaped w/ Fireplace, Built-in Gas Bbq. Apoxy Garage floors w/ built-ins. Can convert downstairs office to bedroom & add bedroom upstairs if needed”

Looks just like a model home… BS. Designed to perfection… BS (I guess Pottery Barn is the new black.) Over $100,000 in custom upgrades… major BS. What is up with all the capital letters? Maybe the realtor meant to change everything to ALL CAPS buy instead chose Title Case?

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Is someone ready to pay $1,100,000 for this estate / Irvine tract home? I guess if you are a seller in this market you start your pricing at WTF, lower it to OMG, and finally sell at LOL?

Highfield Front Highfield Kitchen

Asking Price: $1,050,000IrvineRenter

Purchase Price: $515,000

Purchase Date: 10/02/2001

Address: 24 Highfield Glen, Irvine, CA 92618

Beds: 4

Baths: 3.5

Sq. Ft.: 2,800

$/Sq. Ft.: $375

Lot Size: 4,050 sq. ft.

Year Built: 2001

Stories: 2

Type: Single Family Residence

County: Orange

Neighborhood: Oak Creek

MLS#: S480792

Status: Active

On Redfin: 107 days

Unsold in 90+ days

From Redfin, “MOST UPGRADED HOME AT END OF CUL-DE-SAC IN GATED OAKCREEK COMMUNITY. 4 BEDROOMS PLUS A OFFICE AND HUGE LOFT WHICH CAN COVERT TO ANOTHER BEDRM MAIN FLOOR SUITE AND POWDER ROOM, DESIGNER’S UPGRADED MARBLE FLOOR THOUGHOUT FIRST FLOOR, WOOD SHUTTERS, KITCHEN UPGREDED GRANITE COUNTERTOPS, CENTER ISLAND WITH WINE REF. owner will give $10000 allowance for replace the grandite countertop in kitchen. same model with larger yard and add one room sold and closed for $1300000.in May.”

CrybabyI guess the CAPS LOCK must have broken in mid description…

Can you hear the whining, “same model with larger yard and add one room sold and closed for $1300000.in May.” Where is my buyer? Boo Hoo. You can feel the temper tantrum about to start. That statement is perhaps the most feeble attempt to justify a price I have heard to date. After 107 days on the market, someone needs to alert this seller to the possibility that the price is too high; of course, I don’t want to be the one to do it because then I would have to watch the temper tantrum.

Bottles of Kool Aid

In a falling market, there are always those who believe the correction is temporary. In trading it is called “buying the dip.” In a market rally, it is a good strategy. In a market decline, it is a sure way to become a bagholder and lose a great deal of money. Lately, I have been feeling a certain satisfaction from finding flips like these because I know the fate that awaits them. I suppose each one helps empty my Reservoir of Schadenfreude.

Today’s seller has had a visit from the Kool-Aid Man. To believe you can flip a property for a $200,000 profit in this market you either have to be crazy or intoxicated with kool aid.

BottleTree FrontBottleTree Kitchen

Asking Price: $814,900IrvineRenter

Purchase Price: $615,526

Purchase Date: 2/2/2007

Address: 5 Bottle Tree, Irvine, CA 92618

Beds: 4

Baths: 2.5

Sq. Ft.: 2,018

$/Sq. Ft.: $404

Lot Size: –Knife Catcher Award

Year Built: 2000

Stories: 2

Type: Condominium

County: Orange

Neighborhood: Oak Creek

MLS#: P564630

Status: Active

On Redfin: 123 days

Unsold in 90+ days

From Redfin, “Nice open floor plan in prime Cul De Sac location of Cypress/ Oak Creek. 4 bedrooms, 2.5 baths. Open kitchen overlooks family room with fireplace and backyard. Freshly painted and and new carpet make this home a pleasure.”

A concise description with no typos: I am speechless.

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I can’t give this seller a WTF award as this is merely a wishing price. The $404 SF price is near enough the current market to be plausible; although, after 123 days on the market, it clearly is above the market. I will give this flipper credit for finding a good buy (you make money in real estate when you buy, when you sell you merely convert to cash), but this property needs updating, and this flipper is going to have to reduce his price to sell this place.

Since this flipper’s purchase helped set the neighborhood comps at $305 SF for similar properties, the two underwater neighbors who are holding out for $400 SF can’t be too pleased.

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Asking Price: $959,000IrvineRenter

Purchase Price: $960,000

Purchase Date: 3/30/2006

Address: 45 Commonwealth, Irvine, CA 92618

Beds: 3

Baths: 2.5

Sq. Ft.: 2,400

$/Sq. Ft.: $400

Lot Size: –

Year Built: 2001

Stories: 2

Type: Single Family Residence

View: Hills

County: Orange

Neighborhood: Oak Creek

MLS#: C101239

Status: Active

On Redfin: 25 days

From Redfin, “Premium Cul-De-Sac location home in Oak Creek. 3 large bedrooms with 4th room used as master retreat/office upgrades includes: Travertine floors, designer carpet, custom paint, crown molding, base molding, plantation shutters, stainless steel appliances call owner to show.”

This makes two reasonably well-written MLS descriptions. Do you think we are shaming realtors into checking their copy?

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Another seller holding out for a breakeven price. Of course they will still lose about $58,540 after commissions, but there is a psychological aspect to trying to get out at breakeven. Too bad it probably won’t happen.

They are doing better than a nearby rollback…

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Asking Price: $700,000IrvineRenter

Purchase Price: $725,000

Purchase Date: 10/7/2005

Address: 2 Pearleaf, Irvine, CA 92618

Beds: 3

Baths: 3

Sq. Ft.: 1,750

$/Sq. Ft.: $400

Lot Size: –

Year Built: 2000

Stories: 3

Rollback

Type: Condominium

County: Orange

Neighborhood: Oak Creek

MLS#: S485590

Status: Active

On Redfin: 72 days

From Redfin, “Spacious 3 bd/3ba DETACHED Home w/ Private Backyard in Gated Oak Creek! Elegant Upgrades include Cherry Wood Laminate Flooring * Upgraded Carpet * Custom Built-Ins * Designer Paint * California Closests in all Bedrooms * Recessed Lighting Package * Security System & Integrated Surround Sound Speakers throughout the entire Home! Gourmet Kitchen has Granite Counters & Stainless Steel Appliances! Enjoy the beautiful Resort Style Amenties of Oak Creek!”

Two misspellings and several exclamation points: that is more like it.

I can’t help thinking this seller overpaid when he bought back in 2005, but why not? Real estate only goes up, right? This property is also going to have to cut price significantly to find a buyer, but if they were to get asking price, they would lose $67,000 after a 6% commission.

FuturesYou can clearly see the behavior of a commodities market at work here (and Houses Should Not Be a Commodity). First we have a “dip buyer” gambling that the recent price decline is temporary. The final two properties are your classic “weak hands” who are the first to dump their holdings as they go underwater. As the weakest holders are wiped out and forced to sell, it drives prices down further. At some point, our intrepid flipper realizes he was wrong and adds another property to the falling market: which, of course, pushes it down even more. The downward spiral becomes obvious, predictable and inevitable.

I hope you are enjoying the show.