Category Archives: HELOC Abuse

Median as Market Price Measurement

Do you understand and trust the measures of market prices? Today we will explore the median sales price as a measurement of market prices.

14951 Sumac Ave Irvine, CA 92606 back

Irvine Home Address … 14951 Sumac Ave Irvine, CA 92606
Resale Home Price …… $720,000

Cause I was born lonely down by the riverside
Learned to spin fortune wheels, and throw dice
And I was just thirteen when I had to leave home
Knew I couldn’t stick around, I had to roam

But I got to ramble (ramblin’ man)
Oh I got to gamble (gamblin’ man)
Got to got to ramble (ramblin’ man)
I was born a ramblin’ gamblin’ man


Ramblin’ Gamblin’ Man
— Bob Seger

Is everyone ready to gamble on the housing market again? Are prices going up again? Are you sure?

Median as Housing Market Price Measurement

There is no perfect measure for any broad financial market activity.
Markets for stocks, bonds and other securities are the most widely
reported and measured financial markets. It is relatively easy to
measure activity in these markets because all sales are recorded at a
few central exchanges and the “products” are uniform (one share of
stock is equal to another). In contrast, real estate markets are much
more difficult to evaluate. Real estate transactions are recorded
into the public record in thousands of locations across the country.
Keeping an organized database of these records is such a daunting task
that the title insurance industry has taken this responsibility as part
of its business model, and many people are devoted to the arduous task
of obtaining and organizing these records on a daily basis.

Real estate
does not have the uniformity of stocks or other financial instruments.
Each property has unique qualities that differentiate it from all other
properties making like-kind comparisons very difficult. Geographical
location is a major influence on the value of real estate. Even if two
properties could be found with identical physical characteristics, the
values of these properties could vary considerably based on where they
are located. Ideally, a market measure would record the changes in
sales prices of identical assets or in the case of an index, a group of
similar assets. The unique nature of real estate assets makes it
difficult to use standard measures of reporting utilized in other
financial markets.

Due to the problems of asset uniformity and variability based on
location, real estate markets are typically measured using some form of
median pricing over a specified geographic area. The median is a
statistical measure of central tendency where half the data points are
above and half the data points are below. For instance, in a list of 5
numbers sorted by size ($100,000, $200,000, $300,000, $500,000,
$900,000,) the third number in the list ($300,000) would be the median
because it has two numbers that are larger and two numbers that are
smaller. The median ($300,000) is used rather than an average
($400,000) because a few very expensive properties can increase the
average significantly, and the resulting number does not represent the
bulk of the price activity in the market.

Median Home Prices, 1968-2006

Median Home Prices, 1968-2006

Median is Not Perfect

One of the problems with a median as a measure of house prices is a
lag between when a top or a bottom actually occurs and when this top or
bottom is reflected in the index. During the beginning of a market
decline, the lower end of the market has a more dramatic drop in volume
than the top of the market. This causes the median to stay at
artificially high levels not reflective of pricing of individual
properties in the market. In other words, for a time things look better
than they are.

Then as the price decline takes hold, transaction volume picks up at the low end and drys up at the high end. The flood of low-end transactions at much lower price points makes the median snap back and make the decline look worse than it really is.

Finally, as the price decline wears on, transaction volume will begin to accelerate at the high end — at much lower price points. This activity is still above the median, so the median moves higher whereas prices are actually moving lower.

At the beginning of a market rally, transaction volume
picks up at the bottom of the market at first restarting the chain of
move ups. During this time, the prices of individual properties can be
moving higher, but since the heavy transaction volume is at the low
end, the median will actually move lower.

With all variability caused by changes in the product mix, the median is a poor record of market tops and bottoms, and it is prone to show a direction of market prices that is incongruous with what is happening with individual properties.

Other Distortions of Median

The median has another significant weakness: it does not indicate
the value buyers are obtaining in the market. The houses or structures
built on the land compose the most significant portion of real estate
value in most markets. These structures deteriorate over time and
require routine maintenance that is often deferred. During times of
prosperity, many people renovate homes to add value and improve their
living conditions. The impact of deterioration and renovation of
individual properties is not reflected in the median resale value.

Also, at the time of sale, there are often buyer incentives which
inflate the recorded sales price relative to the actual cost to the
buyer. These buyer incentives also distort the median sales price as a
measure of value.

Median is the Best We Have

With all these distortions of market reality, it is a wonder the
median is used at all. Winston Churchill noted, “It has been said that democracy is the
worst form of government except all the others that have been tried.” The same is true of the median. We use it not because it is perfect, but because it is the best available for the task. Despite its weaknesses, distortions in the index
are not extreme, and it is the best tool available that provides a
meaningful number.

Tomorrow, we will look at Alternate Market Price Measurements including the more reliable S&P/Case-Shiller Index.

14951 Sumac Ave Irvine, CA 92606 back

Irvine Home Address … 14951 Sumac Ave Irvine, CA 92606

Resale Home Price … $720,000

Income Requirement ……. $132,518
Downpayment Needed … $144,000

Home Purchase Price … $41,500
Home Purchase Date …. 4/25/1973

Net Gain (Loss) ………. $635,300
Percent Change ………. 1634.9%
Annual Appreciation … 8.2%

Monthly Mortgage Payment … $3,092
Monthly Cash Outlays ………… $4,030
Monthly Cost of Ownership … $3,010

Redfin Property Details for 14951 Sumac Ave Irvine, CA 92606

Beds 4
Baths 2 full 1 part baths
Size 1,873 sq ft
($384 / sq ft)
Lot Size 5,500 sq ft
Year Built 1972
Days on Market 3
Listing Updated 10/6/2009
MLS Number S591760
Property Type Single Family, Residential
Community Walnut
Tract Cp

Fantastic 2 story home located in the very desirable College park community. Enjoy this very open floor plan featuring 4 BR, 3 baths, formal dining room, very large living room and family room with view of pool. The home is extremely clean and has been very well maintained, new paint throughout much of the house, professionally cleaned carpets, and fantastic large backyard with pool for entertaining. Also enjoy the great association pool located just down the street from the property.

I must admit, this one made me sad when I reviewed it. When I saw a discretionary seller from 1973, I hoped I would find a property with zero debt. They bought 36 years ago; surely they paid it off by now, right? Well, this is Southern California

By 2001, they had the debt up to $231,000. By the time they stopped borrowing in 2006 when they took out a 1-year ARM for $340,000. WTF is a long-term owner doing with a $340,000 1-year ARM? Sophisticated financial management?

I guess this won’t be a short sale as this is about a 50% LTV. I was hoping to profile a celebration of zero debt, and instead I find $340,000 worth of HELOC abuse. It is sad… 🙁

Happy Birthday IHB!

The IHB began its life with this post: Welcome to the Irvine Housing Blog. The rest is history…

390 Quail Rdg   Irvine, CA 92603  kitchen

Asking Price: $459,900
Address: 390 Quail Rdg Irvine, CA 92603

Every time I look in the mirror
All these lines on my face getting clearer
The past is gone
It goes by, like dusk to dawn
Isn’t that the way
Everybody’s got their dues in life to pay

Yeah, I know nobody knows
where it comes and where it goes
I know it’s everybody’s sin
You got to lose to know how to win

Half my life
is in books’ written pages
Lived and learned from fools and
from sages
You know it’s true
All the things come back to you

Dream On — Aerosmith

What do you dream for?

I have known Zovall now for three years, and in all that time, he has been consistent about his dream to build a website and community. He started with a vision, and now he is enjoying watching the IHB grow and evolve.

It all started three years ago today when Zovall and IrvineSingleMom set out to write about Irvine housing. With the fascination with housing caused by The Great Housing Bubble, the Internet was fertile for growing a blog about housing. From its humble first post, the IHB enjoyed a steadily increasing readership and a greater sense of community.

Ideal Home Brokers

We have grown into something more now. It is easy to be an armchair quarterback and criticise the way real estate is bought and sold. We are taking action to do something about it with Ideal Home Brokers.

For those of you who like the IHB the way it is, nothing will change here at the blog. I will continue to write what I believe to be true about market conditions, and during the week, there will always be posts featuring properties in Irvine. Look at Ideal Home Brokers as an add-on; it is an extension to the service you receive when you come to read the IHB.

Some people will want our reports and our advice when buying and selling homes; some will not. We are here to fill what we perceive to be an unmet need. Only time will tell if that need is real or imagined. We are here to serve.

One of the first property profiles on the IHB was near today’s featured property: Olivos – Quail Hill: A Flip Disaster in the Making.

I have to admit something here. When I first read the IHB, I thought Zovall and IrvineSingleMom were tops. When they first asked me to write with them, I did not feel worthy….

390 Quail Rdg   Irvine, CA 92603  kitchen

Asking Price: $459,900

Income Requirement: $87,071
Downpayment Needed: $91,980

Purchase Price: $541,000
Purchase Date: 11/30/2004

Net Gain (Loss): -$108,694
Percent Change: -15.0%
Annual Appreciation: -3.1%

Address: 390 Quail Rdg Irvine, CA 92603

Beds: 2
Baths: 2
Sq. Ft.: 1,656
$/Sq. Ft.: $278
Lot Size: –
Property Type: Condominium
Style: Other
Stories: 1
Floor: 1
Year Built: 2005
Community: Quail Hill
County: Orange
MLS#: S589265
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 4 day

Highly upgraded home! Kitchen with granite countertops and back splash,oversized bar area, stainless steel appliances, 18X18 diagonal tile, walnut cabinets and more! Computer niche off kitchen. Designer paint throughout with suede finish in some areas, large crown moldings, base boards and door casings all around. Upgraded carpet, recessed lighting and fans. Balcony off the master has been transformed into a chic sitting area with white curtains all around.

This property was purchased for $541,000 on 11/30/2004. The owner used a $400,000 first mortgage, a $100,000 second mortgage, and a $41,000 downpayment. On 9/16/2005 the first mortgage was refinanced for $500,000. The records show three HELOCs for $62,500 all recorded at different times. It is unclear if this is a single HELOC reopened three times or three different HELOCs.

Foreclosure Record
Recording Date: 05/13/2009
Document Type: Notice of Sale (aka Notice of Trustee’s Sale)
Document #: 2009000240832

Foreclosure Record
Recording Date: 02/13/2009
Document Type: Notice of Default
Document #: 2009000066139

It looks like the buyer extracted their equity plus some extra, but it is difficult to be sure.

The ATM Value

Now that HELOC abuse and housing ATM addiction are part of our culture, how does it change the value of real estate?

Asking Price: $430,650
Address: 10 Pebblepath Irvine, CA 92614
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Seal the door (of which only one lock works)
What is expected of me now…who knows
With tacks stuck in toes
Debating on what’s likable
But certainly this isn’t home
Certainly not

Awful Fall — Stolen Babies

This isn’t home. Certainly not. It is a hidden ATM machine. Someone took one of the least desirable properties in Irvine and managed to milk it for $384,640 in cash withdrawals through HELOC abuse. As we have all seen here at the IHB, this homeowner was not alone. Now that houses are viewed as great investments that enable owners to borrow and spend, people may be willing to pay more to get one.

Real estate in California is magic. Ordinary tract homes can attain Manhattan Island values. Houses are not merely shelter, they are investments with unlimited wealth potential that can double your income — at least in the kool aid intoxicated world of most would-be owners.

Does kool aid intoxication add value? It does cause people to overbid because they believe they will be compensated for the additional “investment” through mortgage equity withdrawal. Can the collective action of the foolish herd sustain inflated prices forever?

We will see. I doubt it.

Asking Price: $430,650

Income Requirement: $81,534
Downpayment Needed: $86,130

Purchase Price: $169,500
Purchase Date: 5/13/1997

Net Gain (Loss): $235,311
Percent Change: 154.1%
Annual Appreciation: 12.5%

Address: 10 Pebblepath Irvine, CA 92614

Beds: 2
Baths: 2
Sq. Ft.: 1,216
$/Sq. Ft.: $354
Lot Size: 3,240 Sq. Ft.
Property Type: Single Family Residence
Style: Traditional
Stories: 1
Year Built: 1980
Community: Woodbridge
County: Orange
MLS#: S589372
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 3 day

Possibilities abound in this single-level Woodbridge home! Vaulted ceilings in living room and master bedroom, fireplace in living room and a family room or large dining area/breakfast-nook off kitchen.

Possibilities abound…

This is one of the worst locations in Irvine…

10 Pebblepath   Irvine, CA 92614

Think about the noise and pollution at this location. When you are right at the intersection, the noise is not a consistent drone, but rather an endless series of stopping and starting movements. People will squeal tires, lock up brakes, grind through gears and show off their new exhaust pipes. Have you ever noticed that first puff of smoke that comes from a car or bus when they first step on the gas? That is the air you would breathe here.

This owner was an epic HELOC abuser, not for the amount, but for the frequency of the withdrawals and percentage of original value — this homeowner refinanced twelve times and borrowed more than three times what he paid for the house.

  • This property was purchased on 5/13/1997 for $169,500. The owner used a $135,360 first mortgage and a $34,140. At least he did have some of his own money in there for a while.
  • On 5/21/1998 he opened a HELOC for $18,800.
  • On 9/1/1998 he took out a stand-alone second for $52,500.
  • On 12/31/1998 he refinanced the first mortgage for $198,500. As you can see, he learned HELOC abuse early.
  • On 2/8/1999 he opened a HELOC for $12,400.
  • On 9/27/1999 he opened a HELOC for $40,000.
  • On 10/21/2002 he refinanced the first mortgage for $254,000.
  • On 5/16/2003 he refinanced the first mortgage for $292,500.
  • On 11/13/2003 he refinanced the first mortgage for $318,000.
  • On 10/1/2004 he refinanced the first mortgage for $353,000.
  • On 2/22/2005 he opened a HELOC for $45,500.
  • On 8/30/2006 he refinanced the first mortgage for $472,500.
  • On 4/18/2007 he refinanced the first mortgage for $520,000.
  • Total property debt is $520,000
  • Total mortgage equity withdrawal is $384,640.

This owner was not finished playing the game when the ATM closed down. He arranged for a loan modification to extend his time and then defaulted again.

Foreclosure Record
Recording Date: 03/06/2009
Document Type: Notice of Sale (aka Notice of Trustee’s Sale)
Document #: 2009000105992

Foreclosure Record
Recording Date: 12/04/2008
Document Type: Notice of Default
Document #: 2008000559854

Foreclosure Record
Recording Date: 06/06/2008
Document Type: Notice of Rescission
Document #: 2008000271889

Foreclosure Record
Recording Date: 04/22/2008
Document Type: Notice of Sale (aka Notice of Trustee’s Sale)
Document #: 2008000187359

Foreclosure Record
Recording Date: 01/17/2008
Document Type: Notice of Default
Document #: 2008000025457

This owner was hopelessly addicted to the home ATM. Obviously, he did not intend to pay back this money. His plan was to transfer this debt to someone else when he sold the home — if he sold the home. Most people believed the housing ATM was going to keep giving twice-yearly cash infusions to support the lifestyle to which they have become entitled.

Do you think the lenders will enable this again?

I am quite certain that many, many people in California expect lenders to go back to their foolish ways soon. Houses are much more than a place to live, it is a great cashflow investment that can support significant supplemental spending. The only drawback is that you must lose the home, your income and your credit score when the Ponzi Scheme blows up. Many will gladly pay that price if given another opportunity.

The lenders will reap what they sow.

Real Estate, Cashflow Investment and Retirement

Real estate can and should be a part of your retirement plan, but don’t bank on appreciation. Cashflow is the key.

34 Ardmore Irvine, CA 92602 kitchen

Asking Price: $429,000
Address: 34 Ardmore Irvine, CA 92602
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Frank Sinatra

Come fly with me, let’s fly, let’s fly away
If you can use some exotic booze

Once I get you up there where the air is rarefied
We’ll just glide, starry-eyed

Come fly with me, let’s fly, let’s fly
Pack up, let’s fly away!!

Come Fly With Me — Frank Sinatra

Now that the high-flying real estate market of the Great Housing Bubble has crashed, let’s look back to an investment style of yesteryear to provide for retirement. Cashflow investing is the idea that stable inflows of money can be captured and diverted to you for a price. If you accumulate enough cashflow, you can retire.

Stable Sources of Cashflow

In retirement, what determines the amount of money available to enjoy for lifestyle expenses? Is it your wealth? Is it the equity in your home? Not really. It is the stability of the sources of cashflow you control.

Many are obsessed with being rich when what they really want is unlimited spending power. People who have attained great wealth may have amazing spending power, but they seldom use it. If they did, they would not be rich.

Being rich is about forming a habit of saving and consistently spending less than you earn. It is about having the self-discipline to limit your spending voluntarily rather than being forced to by a lender’s credit limit.

You and I work because we need a large amount of stable cashflow to cover personal spending and provide a balance to save. We need to work until we acquire enough assets to provide a stable source of cashflow from another source — our investments.

The quality of our lifestyle and the quantity of our available spending money in retirement is directly related to the sources and stability of cashflow you control and direct. The quantity of money or total net worth is not as important as the ability to convert it to cash.

Cashflow Investments

The problem with asset appreciation as the primary method of funding retirement is that this appreciation must be converted to cash in order to be used. This cash can be obtained through sale or through borrowing. Sale is the cleanest, and it is simple with stocks or other securities that you can sell part of, but houses are different. It is difficult to sell part of your interest in a house. Usually, you will need to borrow the money to stay in your house. This means either a reverse mortgage, or HELOC dependency.

Borrowing money is a bad way to go because you have compound interest working against you. The longer you live, the more you borrow, and the more interest on interest you pay. It is an airplane in a nosedive picking up speed heading to certain doom.

Cashflow investments like (1) dividend stocks, (2) bonds and other debt and (3) real estate are all worthy components of a balanced portfolio. Realistically, few people actually hold stocks or bonds for their cashflow. Most will trade these instruments if only by proxy through a mutual fund.

Real estate is the one cashflow investment that people are more familiar with because we all have homes, even if we rent them. It is also a great cashflow investment. Everyone should consider strategies for owning real estate as part of their retirement savings.

What I am proposing is different than what most people think when they invest speculate in California real estate. It doesn’t matter what it it resells for; appreciation is not important. Buy to obtain maximum future cashflow.

Real Estate as Cashflow

Real estate provides cashflow either through (1) renting the property or (2) living in it and saving the cost of a comparable rental. If you assume most people are putting about one-third of their income toward their housing expense, you see the expense is quite significant. If you own the property with no debt, you can enjoy the benefit of that money for yourself in other ways.

When you look at cashflow rental properties, you want to get the largest possible cashflow for the least amount of money. Don’t focus on appreciation potential unless you want to overpay and dilute the cashflow returns.

If you owned three properties with no debt where each one represented a market rent equal to one-third of your yearly income, you would have a stable income without having a job — other than perhaps property manager… if you want…

The retirement hurdle: own three properties of equal quality to what you rent or own today with no debt.

Living in Retirement

If you look at the fate that awaits us all as seniors, you can see distinct boundaries between the styles of life of various people based on how they lived and how they saved.

There is one group that will save nothing. They will have to chose between working until they die or living on about one-third of their lifetime wage average through Social Security. This is the minimum entitlement in our society as granted in the Social Security Act of 1935.

According to Wikipedia, “… the Social Security program began as a measure to implement “social insurance” during the Great Depression of the 1930s, when poverty rates among senior citizens exceeded 50%.” Social Security is the collective price of societal compassion to its senior citizens. I am glad it’s there.

How well you live above and beyond this minimum entitlement depends on your stable future cashflow from your investment savings.

The conventional wisdom among financial planners is that you need about two-thirds of your work salary as monthly spending to live comfortably in retirement. Social security gets you one of those two-thirds. If you can pay off your primary residence, you get the remainder. Paying off a home and living on Social Security in retirement is still an option in the United States.

Paying off Your Home

Paying off a Home mortgage became passe during the Housing Bubble. People had better things to do with their money than retiring debt. Debt was cheap and abundant; why pay it off under those circumstances? Paying off a house as an investment strategy nearly died. Did anyone keep their conventional mortgages during the bubble?

If you retire debt, you no longer have to service it. For those that keep a revolving credit line at its limit, this is a strange concept, but retiring debt is fundamental to having a stable retirement. Do you want to work and service debt forever? Who is the slave and who is the master?

Paying off your home mortgage removes an enormous financial drain from the family’s balance sheet and greatly improves an income statement; it is an historic measure of success.

Paying off Your Investment Property

If you pay off your home plus one other investment property — like perhaps your starter home — you have more than enough stable cashflow to live comfortably in retirement. (1) Social Security plus (2) a primary residence with no debt and (3) a paid off starter home as an investment equals (=) a prosperous retirement.

It is an old investment strategy to keep a small condo or first-rung property, and it is a good idea if the property is financed with a conventional mortgage. Unfortunately, most people simply used these properties as sources of additional leverage in building their speculative empires.

Remember the Emperor? He levered up and bought 15 properties with hugely negative cashflow and no equity. He will be wiped out. If he had purchased for cashflow, he may have obtained 5 properties up through about 2001, and spent the rest of the housing bubble paying down mortgages. He probably could have owned $3,000,000 in property free-and-clear; instead, he owns $12,000,000 worth of debt and $10,000,000 worth of property — on its way to being $7,000,000. He will be crushed.

When you purchase your first property, it should be near rental parity (at least it will be if you are an IHB reader). Ten years later, that property should have a positive cashflow due to 10 years of escalating rents.

If you keep the property, you can take the excess rent and put it toward the mortgage paying off the debt more quickly. Remember, the goal is to have maximum free cashflow in retirement, so you want to pay off those debts.

Debt equals delayed retirement.

Success

If you (1) save money, (2) acquire assets with maximum cashflow and (3) pay off debts, you will be successful and enjoy a very comfortable retirement. Real estate should not be the only component of your retirement savings plan, but it will be an important one. I hope this provides a way of looking at real estate that benefits you. Cashflow is King.

Your cash is king,Sade
Keep you in my bank.
Your cash is king,
never need to thank.
Your diamond ring,
round and round and round my head.

Wiping all the debt from me.
It’s making my soul sing.
Having the very best of things.
I’m crying out for more.

Your Cash is King — IrvineRenter

34 Ardmore Irvine, CA 92602 kitchen

Asking Price: $429,000

Income Requirement: $107,250
Downpayment Needed: $85,800

Purchase Price: $339,000
Purchase Date: 8/12/2009

Gain (Loss) after 6% Commission: $64,260
Percent Change: 26.5%
Annualized Return: 319%

Address: 34 Ardmore Irvine, CA 92602

Beds: 2
Baths: 2
Sq. Ft.: 1,300
$/Sq. Ft.: $330
Lot Size: –
Property Type: Condominium
Style: Other
Stories: 2
Floor: 1
Year Built: 2000
Community: West Irvine
County: Orange
MLS#: P702480
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 2 day

SOUGHT AFTER SHERIDAN PLACE, 2 BEDROOM 2 BATHROOM, FIREPLACE IN LIVING ROOM, SPACIOUS KITCHEN, INSIDE LAUNDRY. NOT A SHORT SALE OR REO. NEW PAINT AND READY TO MOVE IN. FABULOUS LOCATION CLOSE TO TRAILS, COMMUNITY PARKS AND POOLS. AWARD-WINNING SCHOOLS!!

Today’s featured property has an interesting history. It stands for everything opposed to the point of my post today. You have an owner who bought for appreciation, converted every penny to cash, and defaulted on his loans to IndyMac which you and I will pay for. Then you have the flipper who stepped in to make a quick buck at our expense.

  • The original owner paid $231,500 back on 6/28/2000.
  • After a series of refinances, he ends up with a $397,500 Option ARM first mortgage, and a $79,500 HELOC.
  • Total property debt is $ 477,000.
  • Total mortgage equity withdrawal of $245,500 plus his downpayment.

He had no problem converting appreciation to cash. Do you think lenders will be that stupid when you want to retire? Are you counting on it?

astute observation

Since so much of today’s post was about real estate investment and success, I want to direct you to John T. Reed’s website. If you have never heard of him before, he is a real estate expert and author whose work I admire greatly. I recently purchased Succeeding, and I enjoy his no-nonsense writing style. Check out his Guru Ratings.

Spending Garden

The people who spent their homes are the ones selling now. Today we have two in the same neighborhood.

182 Garden Gate Ln   Irvine, CA 92620  kitchen

Asking Price: $558,880

Address: 182 Garden Gate Ln Irvine, CA 92620

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There’s a stale morning light
In the garden where you lay
All through the night
Through this poisoned nightmare
Have you set yourself free?

The Garden — The Creepshow

The theory that prices can hold up in Irvine all revolve around resident’s ability to make mortgage payments (They better not fall behind). If everyone in their overpriced homes continues to make their payments, then we will not have large numbers of REO, and prices will deflate slowly as the cash buyers spend themselves and fundamentals catch up. At least that is the theory. (There is also the theory that house prices have bottomed and that they go up by magic.)

I have profiled dozens if not hundreds of properties where the owners increased their debts and effectively spent their homes. The most distressed owners have already been foreclosed on, but there are many more spenders in distress due to the enormous debt burdens and the shaky economy. This crisis is not over until all the HELOC abusers have been flushed from their homes. Until then, we will see them bolt from the ethers like the properties today.

From The English Garden:

First, I want to say this is one of my favorite neighborhoods in
Irvine. It features architecture reminiscent of a small English village
with quaint cottages. There are few visible garages, the sidewalks are
detached from the street, and the trees make for a great street scene.
It is very close to Canyon View Elementary in Northwood. If prices were
not ridiculous, I would buy in this neighborhood.

Garden Gate

182 Garden Gate Ln   Irvine, CA 92620  kitchen

Asking Price: $558,880

Income Requirement: $139,720

Downpayment Needed: $111,776

Purchase Price: $186,000

Purchase Date: 4/4/1998

Address: 182 Garden Gate Ln Irvine, CA 92620

Beds: 2
Baths: 3
Sq. Ft.: 1,182
$/Sq. Ft.: $473
Lot Size: 2,132

Sq. Ft.

Property Type: Single Family Residence
Style: Cottage
Stories: 2
Year Built: 1998
Community: Northwood
County: Orange
MLS#: S585660
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 7 days

DECORATOR PERFECT 2 BR, 2.5 BA DETACHED COTTAGE HOME W/ A LOFT/OFFICE
IS NESTLED ON A LARGE, PRIVATE INTERIOR LOT W/ A WRAP AROUND YARD.
LOWER LEVEL OFFERS AN OPEN, BRIGHT GREAT ROOM W/ MANY INTERESTING
ARCHITECTURAL TOUCHES, CUSTOM BUILT-INS, A ROMANTIC FIREPLACE AND
HARDWOOD FLOORING. CENTRALLY LOCATED KITCHEN IS IDEAL FOR ENTERTAINING
AND OFFERS A GAS COOKTOP, MICROWAVE, HUGE CUSTOM PANTRY AND RECESSED
LIGHTING. UPPER LEVEL INCLUDES A MASTER SUITE W/ SHOWER, DUAL SINKS AND
A WALK-IN CLOSET; OFFICE W/ BUILT-INS AND TRACK LIGHTING; AND A JUNIOR
SUITE W/ FULL BATH. ADDITIONAL AMENITIES INCLUDE CUSTOM PAINT, EUROPEAN
BERBER CARPET
ON UPPER LEVEL, CEILING FANS, GARAGE FAN, CUSTOM STAIR
RAILS WITH COTTAGE CUTOUTS, AND HEATING/AC SYSTEM UPGRADED W/ 2ND
BUILT-IN FRESH AIR SUPPLY (BOTH LEVELS) TO ALLOW BALANCING TEMPERATURES
UP & DOWN. CHARMING DUTCH DOOR LEADS TO PATIO & WRAP AROUND
YARD W/ A BRICK PORCH, PEBBLE AGGREGATE WALKWAY W/ BRICK ACCENTS,
MALIBU LIGHTS AND AUTOMATIC SPRINKLERS.

Do the Europeans make better berber carpeting as well as better bidets?

  • This property was purchased on 4/4/1998 for $186,000. The owners used a $137,000 first mortgage, and a $49,000 downpayment.
  • On 6/22/1998 they opened a HELOC for $10,000.
  • On 1/19/2000 they opened a HELOC for $50,000.
  • On 1/31/2001 they refinanced with a $210,000 first mortgage.
  • On 6/29/2004 they opened a stand-alone second for $69,500.
  • On 3/9/2005 they refinanced the stand-alone second for $130,000.
  • On 1/10/2006 they refinanced the first mortgage for $348,924.
  • On 3/31/2008 they refinanced the first mortgage for $342,141.
  • Total property debt is $342,141.
  • Total mortgage equity withdrawal is $205,141 including their $49,000 downpayment.

Surprisingly, this isn’t egregious compared to many I have profiled, and their debt is low enough they will not be a short sale. Is this sophisticated financial management or crazy and lucky? If given the chance, people who have succeeded using these techniques will use them again.

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Our second property has been featured before in A Warning about HOAs.

74 Turnbury Ln front 74 Turnbury Ln kitchen

Asking Price: $670,000

Income Requirement: $167,500

Downpayment Needed: $134,000

Monthly Equity Burn: $5,583

Purchase Price: $499,000

Purchase Date: 6/28/2002

Address: 74 Turnbury Lane, Irvine, CA 92620

Beds: 3
Baths: 4
Sq. Ft.: 2,400
$/Sq. Ft.: $279
Lot Size: 3,562

Sq. Ft.

Property Type: Single Family Residence
Style: Other
Stories: 2
Year Built: 1999
Community: Northwood
County: Orange
MLS#: S564755
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 179 days

Bright and Airy! This is a must see home in Irvine. Upstairs loft can
be converted into a bedroom. kitchen has large center island with
granite counter top. Laminate wood floor, Beautiful backyard with
covered patio and built-in B.B.Q. Master bathroom has tub and european
bidet.

At least I know what the bidet is for now….

  • This property was purchased on 6/28/2002 for $499,000. The owners
    used a $399,000 first mortgage, and a $100,000 downpayment. So far so
    good.
  • On 5/20/2003 they opened a HELOC for $82,000.
  • On 10/4/2004 they opened a HELOC for $248,000.
  • On 4/18/2006 they refinanced with a $650,000 1 year ARM.
  • On 6/13/2006 they opened a HELOC for $160,000.
  • Total property debt is $810,000.
  • Total mortgage equity withdrawal is $411,000 including their $100,000 downpayment.

If this property sells for its asking price, and if a 6% commission is paid, the total loss to the lender will be $180,200 assuming this borrower fully tapped the HELOC.

There is plenty of talk about a bottom. The market cheerleaders and denial inducers are working overtime. Do you really think this is a bottom?